Who is Ryan Leaf from ESPN?

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  1. Who is Ryan Leaf from ESPN?
    Burak Uslu

    Burak Uslu Points Member


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    I came across this news. Ryan Leaf said that USC only had 5 10-win seasons and Clay Helton won 3 of them:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6wmoCwHBjs

    I did not have to go too far but back, not only Clay Helton only won 2 seasons, the third one was Ed O, just Pete Carrol himself had 7 10-win seasons.

    I am calling this out, how do we protest?
     
       
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    He is the former wsu QB who was in the same draft as Peyton Manning, and some experts thought he was as good as Manning, was drafted second overall after Manning. But he flopped in the NFL and is considered one of the biggest busts ever. I remember a video of him yelling at a reporter going viral. He then had some legal problems too.

    He is obviously an idiot, and completely wrong about the 10 win seasons.
     
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    Really uninformed by Ryan, who is a pretty good guy. His story is very compelling and he’s doing some really good work with helping people overcome substance abuse problems.
     
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    Ryan Leaf was the answer to a trivia question until JaMarcus Russell changed that answer.

    He was a beast at WSU.
     
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    Was there a specific time reference because those aren't the only 3 anyway.
     
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    I always kind of thought of Ryan Leaf as the Todd Marinovich of Washington State. The main difference between the two being that Leaf got heavy into drugs after he left college.
     
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    He’s on drugs again and having hallucinations
     
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    Lest we forget, his WSU team won the Pac 12 the year CPC went to the Orange Bowl. They beat us that year, I believe. A very good CFB player.
     
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    Leaf played at WSU before CPC, '96 & '97 were his big years.
     
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    You're correct. CPC lost to WSU, but Leaf was gone. Thanks for the correction.
     
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    Drafting a QB is like shooting craps
     
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    This is just sloppy work by Leaf. The stat he is referring to and completely botched is... "Since 1980, taking out the incredible run by USC under Pete, USC has only five 10 win seasons"

    Just looking back further, in the previous 20 years 1960-1979... there were eight.

    Interesting to think that in the last 60 years, there have only been TWENTY 10 win seasons. And thirteen 10+ seasons (more than half under Pete).
     
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    Thst was Jason Gesser
     
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    I've brought this up before. I think that Helton has more 10 win seasons than Kiffy and Sark had combined. Also more than several other past USC coaches. USC fans sometimes forget that in the past 40+ years, we have only been relevant sporadically, except for PC's run. What we have now is par for the course.
     
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    He says "There have been five ten wins seasons in the history of the USC program." He may mean only the last ten years, but he does not say that.
     
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    I have heard Leaf on a few shows and he actually does a great job in the broadcasting booth. It wasn't the same show but I have heard him reference the 10 win season and the show I heard it on he said that we had had only 4 10 win seasons since Pete left, which is correct. Maybe he got mixed up, I was actually shocked at how few we did have in the past. Leaf actually does a pretty good job at discussing the Pac 12 and although he is a WSU guy he stays pretty neutral in his reporting. Fight On!!!!!
     
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    It was pretty damn hard to win 10 games until the last 20 years.
    We had undefeated seasons where we went 11-0.

    It is a hell of lot easier to get to 10 wins when you play 13 or 14 games.
    Clay went 10-3 and 11-3 in his first 2 years.

    3 losses prior to the expansion in games would have been 9-3 and we had a lot of 9-3 and 9-2-1 years.
    Unless you go back even further when we plays 10 games or sometimes less.

    We went 9-1-1 one year with the only loss being in the Rose Bowl......ya that is a better year than 10-3 or 11-3 years were.

    Kiffin coached us thru the sanctions and had one 10 win season in his 3 years and we did win 10 in the year he got fired. Sark was coach for 1 year.
    Somehow a 7-6 year in the middle of sanctions is enough to get you fired but 5-7 in a year with full squad is not.
     
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    Ryan Leaf said, "there’ve been five ten-win seasons in the history of USC football—five. Clay Helton has three of them.”

    This idiot doesn't know squat about USC football. Our first 10-win season was in 1921. I haven't counted all the 10-or-more win seasons we have had, but Howard Jones had three and John McKay had five.

    Incidentally, I thought Ryan Leaf was a guest in the Crowbar Motel, but he checked out a few years ago.
     
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    The key isn't necessarily the number of wins but of losses. To be a National Champion or top 4 team generally a school at worst could finish with one loss and one tie at worst so that should be the measure. Now let's see

    Gus Henderson 10-1 1922
    Howard Jones 8-1-1 1927 9-0-1 1928 10-1 1931 10-0 1932 10-1-1 1933 8-0-2 1939
    Jeff Cravath 8-0-2 1944
    Jess Hill 10-1 1952
    John McKay 11-0 1962 10-1 1967 9-1-1 1968 10-0-1 1969 12-0 1972 10-1-1 1974
    John Robinson 11-1 1976 12-1 1978 11-0-1 1979
    Pete Carroll 12-1 2003 13-0 2004 12-1 2005 12-1 2008

    so 22 seasons that would fit within the traditional poll-driven national championship standards described above.
     
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    He has always been a head case. His history tells it all
     

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