Vaccination Passports Are On The Way

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Junior Member


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    "During 2011–2014, prevalence of any oral human papillomavirus (HPV) for adults aged 18–69 was 7.3%; high-risk HPV was 4.0%."

    That was 2014. Today, it's up to almost 23%.

    "It is estimated that 80% of women will contract an HPV infection at some point in their lifetime.....A few HPV strains, in particular, HPV 16, 18, and 45 have been classified as the most high-risk HPV types, accountable for approximately 70% of cervical cancers around the world. The most common of these high-risk infections to cause changes to the cervix were HPV types 16, 18, and 45."

    And yet, the HPV vax is not required. Shocking. We also don't mandate condom wearing which would have a dramatic impact on lessening all STD's and unwanted pregnancies, while also promoting personal responsibility.

    You just need to STFU. Until time efficacy proves there are no long-term side effects, nobody should be forced to do anything. At this point, my personal risk of problematic covid infection is less than potential long or short-term risk from the vaccine that is unknown.
     
  2. Buck Dancer

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    More proof your an idiot when you think businesses asking for a way to help protect their business from a pandemic which caused them millions of dollars in lost revenue is somehow government taking your rights. Do the math moron.
     
  3. Jim McNeil

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    There is simply no logical reason for the restrictions. The vaccine is available to everyone, masks are available to everyone, social distancing can be done by anyone. So if you are vaccinated, wear a mask and stay 6' feet away from other people you should have no concerns or fears for your safety or what anyone else does.
     
  4. DJ4SC

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    Who’s the “idiot” again?

    Cucky meets the definition to a tee.
     
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  5. Jim McNeil

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    The government giveth the government taketh. The losses were generated by government intervention & restriction.
     
  6. DJ4SC

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    Exactly.

    Open up the state and let the pearl clutching leftists hide in their basements.
     
  7. SoCalN8tiv

    SoCalN8tiv Junior Member


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    Two words: Voluntary and temporary

    None of this should ever be permanent and punishable.

    Personally, I prefer none of it. The gub'ment can go pound sand.
     
  8. Buck Dancer

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    Really? How is Brazil doing vs say I don't know New Zealand or the you can even use the US vs Brazil. You guys can pretend things would have been better without the government preventing absolute morons from running wild, however we have concrete examples of what that looks like and it's waaaaaay ugly.

    Government intervention is occasionally a necessity, a pandemic is a qualifier, but i wouldn't expect a domestic terrorist to understand, nor would I expect a Russian stooge.

    Then of course there is the fact that the businesses are asking for this, and again we wonder how you guys somehow think this has anything to do with "the man" other than the fact you need someone to manage the program and negotiate it's merits with other countries.....who of course are also attempting to find a way for the world to start safely traveling again. But other than all that, great argument dude.
     
  9. DJ4SC

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    Bull.

    Now who’s the Russian bot?
     
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  10. Jim McNeil

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    Okay Boomer
     
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  11. SouthbayTrojan91

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    LOL. Ok.
    The pandemic is not what caused them to lose all that revenue. It was liberals like you.
     
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    You want to compare an island country with very little inbound traffic that was easy to keep out to any other country?
    That is a major fail.

    You want to guess how many businesses are "asking for this"? You have any idea? Why do you think it is very many at all?
    We do live in times where the twitter mob representing .5% of public opinion so I doubt you really care as long as it matches with your opinion.

    Someday you will realize the covid response was way out of proportion with the threat and caused way more harm than the virus did or would have with a much more reasoned approach.
     
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    The state of New York is mandating them beginning this Friday, for access to certain businesses and public situations. Social scoring systems have arrived. Government tracking of private citizens has arrived.

    It wasn't the pandemic that caused them millions (billions) of dollars in lost revenue, it was the government's response to it. Oh, yeah... Moron.

    It's remarkable that they haven't thought of that for the common cold or the flu, isn't it? Why do you suppose that is?

    Freedom is more important than life. Or so the founders believed. ...And so do we, therefore, as a nation.

    Sadly, the government lacks the competence or the moral authority to make such decisions, when the consequences are as relatively insignificant as this particular strain of the Corona virus has proven to be.

    Until the government *defines* a clear distinction between the severity that requires a government intervention, and the severity that doesn't, then it has no business mandating anything. Especially not anything that results in such a significant and permanent loss of freedom.

    That latter point is one I asked when we first started talking about this subject, in Feb-March of 2020: what's the threshold for determining when action is warranted? The question didn't inspire anyone.

    The common cold and the flu clearly don't cross that threshold, and this current strain of the coronavirus is certainly not as bad as some strains of flu we've seen.
     
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    Possibly the lamest claim we've seen in a while. Businesses can already mandate this if they want to, without needing the government to intervene. And that little difference is all the difference in the world between a free society and one that isn't.

    Hey, here's an idea for you government authority fans: if you want to get more people on board, make this card dual purpose, serving both as vaccination verification and voter ID, describing the holder's eligibility to vote,.
     
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    Yes ignore the situation in Brazil which was doing exactly what u tards r n favor of. Great rebuttal, for a 3rd grader.
     
  16. Buck Dancer

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    You are totally correct and that is why business (Oracle/Microsoft/ and one more I've forgotten about, possibly more) partnered with the government to eventually produce a passport which the government can then rubber stamp and negotiate with other countries so it actually holds water.

    Thank you for educating yourself IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!

    Then again, you fucktards tend to forget other countries exist and have their own say on wether Americans can travel on their soil.
     
  17. DJ4SC

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    Maybe we don't care about other countries and what they do, you fucking asshole.
    This is about our freedoms not your vagina. What ever happened to that leftist bullshit “my body, my choice”?
    Fuck you and every idiot that thinks like you. Meanwhile your leftist shitheads are letting in thousands without being tested. May they infect your stupid ass.
     
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    Glad to see you admitting your 3rd grade mental capacities.
    Do you want to talk about Japan? How about Iceland? How about a long list of other countries where the kids never left school and the country never went into full lock-down.

    BTW, Brazil's cases per million is the same as Italy and less than France.

    I know this is all hard for a 3rd grader to understand. So you go ahead and hide behind your mommas skirt and let the adults talk.
     
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    I agree with this, businesses do have the right to refuse service and the right to ask people to wear masks. Those customers that don’t want to obey their rules can shop elsewhere, and I know people who do. But it’s the private business that should make their rules without government interference.

    Government intervention rarely stops at the first step, such as producing a vaccination ID, like a passport. It almost always grows from there, and will likely end up with people being restricted unconstitutionally based on not wanting to allow a substance to be injected into their body that they have serious reservations about.

    The government has caused enough damage with their Covid response. We don’t need any more.
     
  20. TheRealAirbns

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    Government should not be involved.

    As I said, it's the difference between a free society and an oppressed society.

    We tend to forget other countries exist? What's your evidence for such a ridiculous statement? You woketards have a habit of saying things that are full of shit.
     

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