The problem is that any new coach would be following . . . BigRex Points Member Joined: Dec 7, 2019 Messages: 450 Likes Received: 428 Jan 6, 2021 #1 Pete Carroll. That's how the USC fans would lo0k and any new USC coach. When Helton finally goes on his way, probably in two years, the new coach will not be judged based on a comparison to Clay Helton. He won't be judged against Sarkisian, Kiffin, or Orgeron either. If he goes 9-3 his second year, the fans won't be thankful that he won two more games than Helton did. They will be angry that he won two less games than Carroll would have. Carroll's record after the first year was 91-13 over 8 years, an average year of 11.5-1.5. An average year at USC for him was 12 wins. 12 wins. That's just incredible. What successful college coach in his right mind would come to a program that was expecting an average of 11-12 wins per year? Would a coach like Fickel or Campbell leave a program that was thrilled to win 7 or 8 wins a year, to come to a place that demanded 11 and sometimes 12? Would a coach making $4 million a year, who was adored by the fan base, take a pressure cooker position that paid $5 million a year and had fans who demanded near-perfection? I wonder if one of problems in replacing Helton is that the USC admin cannot find qualified, successful coaches who are willing to come for what USC would be giving them and demanding in return. Trojanfan1963 and STRECKERmemo like this.