The Decision on Clay

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by Tusc2000, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:48 PM.

  1. The Decision on Clay
    Tusc2000

    Tusc2000 Junior Member


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    Jan 15, 2020 at 12:48 PM
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    The answer to all your prayers will be made clear in 10.5 months. And yet, as you are surely aware, sometimes the answer is no.

    9-3 or better means he stays.
    7-5 or worse means he's gone.
    8-4 ? Coin toss.

    Think I'm wrong? In early November, I said Clay would likely stay on for 2020. OC Trojan wanted me to place a bet on it. Unfortunately, I don't gamble. I could have made a lot of money off you guys. Well, not really. None of you would have paid up.

    BTW, I'm not a Clay lover. But I don't hate him either, and I'm not about to root for us to lose. I'm a realist and the reality is that he is here for the coming season, no matter how many donations are pulled or how many season tickets get cancelled.

    The level of hysteria around here is flat out insane.
     
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  2. racea911

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 1:51 PM
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    You say hysteria, while I say the majority of the fans have an inability to resign themselves to taking it dry from behind while cheering. This doesn't make you a better fan. This makes you an enabler of mediocrity and shows a complete lack of discernment.


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  3. oc trojan

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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    How much do I owe you
     
  4. flyfishintrojan

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 2:12 PM
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    7-5 with a win over UCLA and I bet Helton stays. And I NEVER welsh on a bet.
     
  5. August West

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 2:30 PM
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    roll eyes.....

    We kept the turd after 5-7, how anyone can say....

    he’ll absolutely be retained if....

    or absolutely be fired if....

    obviously hasn’t been paying attention.
     
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    Jan 15, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    Just imagine the BOT/Ath. Dept meetings having to unf*ck this stuff:

    • Dr. Tyndall scandal
    • Dr. Puliafito scandal
    • Aunt Becky scandal
    • Lyn Swann debacle
    • Haden during/post-tenure debacle (resurfaced w/ Orgeron's win)
    • Nikias debacle
    • Ath. Dept shakeup yesterday
    • FB Coaching staff mess
    • SC's diminished FB prominence on a national stage (more like laughing stock)
    • Recent recruiting class

    I'm sure I left a couple out.

    And you think the fanbase is hysterical? Who wouldn't be, after this shit-show? I'd rather be on the BOT of Boeing right about now...
     
  7. KeenObserver

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 2:42 PM
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    Not hysterical, depressed is a far more appropriate term. Though I think Helton is on borrowed time. I think everybody is getting cleared out.
     
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    Jan 15, 2020 at 3:54 PM
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    There have been countless threads on this. What's one more?
     
  9. Tusc2000

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 4:00 PM
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    Maybe that's right. But my sense on this has always been that a good HC candidate will not want to come to an environment where coaches get fired for going 8-4, not matter how storied the school's legacy once was.
     
  10. Tusc2000

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM
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    Ha ha. You owe me nothing. Let's call it a gentleman's bet.
     
  11. Troy70

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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    Folt keeps Clay thru his contract, no matter what the team does
     
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    Jan 15, 2020 at 4:35 PM
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    With that ding-bat as prez, she may see to it SC fails no matter what!
     
  13. Eeks2284

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 5:03 PM
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    I'm also a realist ($20 Million buyout and USC football revenue was ~$60M in 2018) and I disagree.

    I think it'll take 10+ wins, mostly blowout victories, sweeping the rivals, winning the bowl game, multiple conference/national awards, many high draft projections and at least one "Is USC back?" media cycle for CCH to save his job. I don't think he can do it, but I'll be happy if he does.

    Either way, the narrative around the program needs to change. The toxicity surrounding the program/fan base is turning people outside the program who grew up wanting to be a part of the tradition away.

    Fight On!
     
  14. racea911

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    And you will show your disgust by keeping your season tickets and attending every home game?
     
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    Jan 15, 2020 at 6:30 PM
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    I agree completely with your reasonable post. I wanted Clay gone, but since he's here for another year, oh well, I will ALWAYS root for our Trojans. Just a quick analysis: the PAC-12 South will not be that good. We play Alabama, Oregon (at Autzen) and Notre Dame. 9-3 might be a realistic result.
     
  16. trjoosh

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 7:06 PM
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    Hysterical huh? Fan bases at OSU, LSU, Alabama, Florida St, Texas, Oklahoma, etc would have already burned down the school if they had retained someone like gomer after 5-7 season.
     
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    Jan 15, 2020 at 10:35 PM
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    It is always darkest before the dawn. Winners never quit and quitters never win. Fight On!
     
  18. GLYCERINE

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    Jan 15, 2020 at 10:47 PM
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    yup
     

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