Luke Kuechly

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by Oregon Trojan, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Peete2Affholter

    Peete2Affholter Junior Member


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    The utter lack of experience as a coach, maybe?

    Look, I know Luke Kuechly was widely regarded as one of the best linebackers in his relatively short career, as basically a "coach on the field" as players with that magical "high football IQ" are often characterized.

    Having also been around an NFL locker room and coaching staff, and obviously intimately familiar with how a defensive game plan is constructed and executed, I believe he CAN be a great coach someday - in the NFL.

    Having said all that, he would be a very green rookie in the world of coaching, and even someone with great gifts in any arena need seasoning and experience before they become great, or even good. Furthermore, coaching in college is a lot different than coaching in the NFL. In the NFL, ALL of your players are hyper-capable, ridiculously athletic specimens to the point where the difference between wins and losses often is the X's and O's chess match between the coaches. In college, it's far more about firstly, identifying players who are good and have potential, and secondly, teaching them enough to be effective players at the collegiate level. Then, thirdly, it's all about doing it on a constant basis because every single year you have a new crew of players who need that training.

    Again, not saying that Kuechly wouldn't be a great coach, just that I don't think would happen overnight, and we've already had enough of unseasoned coaches doing OTJ training, with predictable sub-par results as they learn their craft.
     
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    Everything you said is spot on. I just don’t think it will make any difference who we hire as DC, as the core problem still remains.
     
  3. heyrev

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    No disrespect but that's a ridiculous assertion. Did you not see a drastic difference in our offense with GH? Of course you did. We get it--you don't like Helton. Stop with your nonsense.
     
  4. Peete2Affholter

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    GH certainly improved the offense, even if it displeases the Trojan fans who wish to see Student Body Left resurrected, but the point remains valid that the HC sets the overall tone, culture, and direction of the program. He is, (and should be) unquestioned as "the boss," to which the coordinators, no matter how good or talented, should defer.

    And Helton has repeatedly shown that he is an average coach at best.
     
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    I don’t think lack of experience is a deal breaker for a DC if he has Kuechly’s pedigree.
     
  6. Peete2Affholter

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    That would depend a lot on what kind of money he's asking for.
     
  7. DaFireMedic

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    Our offense was improved, but the culture wasn’t. The defense is filled with 4 and 5 star recruits that tackle poorly. And recruiting is the worst it’s been in USC’s history. I’m not optimistic at all that things will change significantly with a new DC, regardless of who it is. We need a new HC.

    And for the record, I don’t dislike Helton at all. But after 4 years, he’s had enough time to get things on track and has not been able to do it.

    If you think that’s nonsense, then so be it.
     
  8. CoronaTrojanFan

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    Agree with Medic - the current situation is all about culture and right now the culture of the USC football program is not one of success, achievement and swagger - the fact that so many top local recruits are willing to leave California to go elsewhere indicates that they don't see a winning and developmental culture at USC and until that changes the Trojans are going to be out of the conversation for the CFP.
     
  9. August West

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    The drastic difference was GH....despite Helton!

    DFM is 100% correct, the issue is Helton.....it’s mindblowing that you don’t see that
     
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    Of course lack of experience is a deal breaker. If not, why not go after a guy like Willie McGinest who has actually maintained ties to the school?
     
  11. Gilesmiles

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    You’ve said a bunch of dumb stuff on this board but this ranks right up there with the dumbest. Just because you are a great player does not mean you can coach/teach. Some of the greatest players are naturals and cannot necessarily teach others how they do what they do. Given your line of reasoning maybe we should offer the DC position to Troy Polamlu?
     
  12. flyfishintrojan

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    This board is absolutely infested with some of the dumbest pikers in the known universe. Aaron Boone is MANAGING the The New York effing Yankees without a lick of experience.

    Pat Riley had just 2 years before becoming a hall of fame BB coach. USC is no longer ( actually it never was) a destination coaching gig, but instead a Pony Express way station for coaches wanting to go to serious football programs, so you gotta be bold and take chances on unknowns because no one with any pedigree wants to be part of this train-wreck-smashing-into-a-dumpster-fire holocaust that is now USC football.

    And I would give consideration to either Troy or Willie. However BKU didn’t do squat at SC so there is that.
     

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