Garry P. You Might Find This of Interest

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  1. SCnut1

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    Here’s another link below that has Ca state track meet results from 1915 through 2014. Some of the names in there from the 60’s and 70’s are definitely a blast from the past. I didn’t know that Sam Cunningham had won a shot put title when he was at Santa Barbara HS.

    http://lynbrooksports.prepcaltrack.com/ATHLETICS/TRACK/stateres.htm
     
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  2. BlemBlam

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    I’m firmly convinced that the 2002 team is the fastest CFB team ever

    Look at the 100 times in the 90’s
    Kareem Kelly who has the fastest 200 meter time in State history, Darrell Rideaux, Justin Fargas and Sultan McCullouch.

    Crazy
    Darrell Rideaux 10.43
    Kareem Kelly 10.47
    Justin Fargas 10.52
    Sultan McCullouch 10.62
     
  3. SCnut1

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    That’s interesting. I wouldn’t have guessed Rideaux to be the fastest of that group.
     
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    Dunno about that ^

    Florida could likely take 3 other guys off their 2008-2011 teams and put ‘em with Jeff Demps’ 10.01 speed to leave us gasping.
     
  5. BlemBlam

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    Keep in mind, those were strictly State Meet Times. I’m pretty sure Sultan ran under 10.2 in HS
     
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    You can’t take 1 guys best time and extrapolate it using times from 1 meet. I’m pretty sure Sultan ran 10.18
    Fargas best time was 10.37 and Kareem Kelly 10.28
     
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    1999- 10.17 for Sultan with +1.7 for wind. Kareem was a 10.3 with a +4.1 for wind.
    https://www.iaaf.org/home
     
  8. SCnut1

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    That’s what I thought. Thanks
     
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    It’s pretty much what you’re doing, lol.

    And if we’re allowing wind, I think Demps ran a 9.96w.
     
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    No, I’m not, you mentioned one player

    It’s like saying Florida A&M was the fastest team of the 50’s because they had Bob Hayes.
    Actually they probably were.

    I would be willing to say Miami is the only team that could challenge us from that era. They had a lot of guys who ran track back in the day
     
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    Say that name in any local barbershop . . . and a hush falls over the room.

    You're talking about royalty.
     
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    A simple search of Demps’ 2008-‘11 years at Florida reveals:

    “A dozen Florida football players run the 40 in 4.4 or faster. This includes the redshirt freshman running back Chris Rainey, who ran the leadoff leg on Florida’s 4x100-meter relay team that finished third at the 2008 N.C.A.A. championship”
     
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    Cotton is among the more recent "best who never was stories" . . . along with Ben Wilson (Chicago) and Lenny Cooke (New Jersey).

    I can still remember the panic we had when Cotton verballed to UGLA . . . along with Baron Davis.

    But his story underlines how quickly and easily it can all go sideways in the system of basketball.

    For every Lebron James . . . there is a Schea Cotton, Ben Wilson and Lenny Cooke:

     
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    Yeah, because Florida isn’t notorious for inflating their players 40 times, lol
     
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    I saw Schea Cotton play. He was a great player But he couldn’t touch Raymond Lewis or Mark Wulfemeyer as an offensive player.
    People don’t understand how good they were. They were dropping NBA threes like they were layups. In the days when there was no three pointer. Hell, in Raymond’s days, especially High School, you couldn’t even dunk the ball.


    Closest comparison I could make to Raymond, after thinking about it for a few days is Earl The Pearl Monroe. He was that kind of player, but I really believe he had more range.

    Schea Cotton reminded me of a kid I saw play in Maryland right before I moved back to California, or maybe when I went back for a visit. So either 68 or 69. Me and a few friends were playing at either DeMatha or Northwestern HS and there was this dude that was just killing people. Two of my friends were on scholarship at Austin Peay and the other had been an All Metropolitan player and was at South Carolina. So I asked one of which college the guy was playing at. He laughed and said he’s just going into his freshman year at DeMatha. It was Adrian Dantley. That is who Schea Cotton reminded me of
     
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    Ok, you win.

    Everything I come up with in research, you rebutt with new made-up parameters. Guess only your selected numbers and events count.......

    If I knew that you make the rules, I wouldn’t have tried to further the topic, lol.

    It’s all good. Trojans are the fastest. Ever.
     
  17. BlemBlam

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    I’m not trying to win, but Florida during that time was notorious for exaggerating their players 40 times. They would say a kid ran a 4.2 and then he would run 4.56 at the combine. Like Chris Rainey, Florida would say he ran in the 4.2 range but he was 4.45 at the combine. You listed Rainey but all four of our guys were as fast, or faster than him

    You started the made up parameters by saying Jeff Demps and some other guys would leave us in the dust or whatever.

    Let’s leave it and I’ll rephrase my statement to say that group of four Trojans would have been a hell of a 4x100 relay team
     
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    Schea Cotton just matured much earlier than his contemporaries...once he got past HS, his game didn't improve...in high school, he was a man amongst boys....I saw him at a CIF title game, either as a Junior or senior in HS, dominated like he was playing against elementary kids....

    Lenny Cooke was a LBJ contemporary, highly regarded as a HS senior...flamed out after that...

    Ben Wilson should not be on the list...if we're thinking of the same kid, he was murdered in Chicago as a 17-year old....IIRC, #1 HS player at the time?
     
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    I was at Daniel Murphy HS during the time that Murphy, which had a pretty good team as well, stopped VD's long winning streak. Murphy won the 2A, then 3A titles back then. Yes, Lewis was amazing.
     

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