Defensively Speaking: Pac-12 Championship game (from Kevin Bruce)

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  1. kbruce9022

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    Hi Conquest: Above average is just about a perfect summary of the Helton era. I just hope his era is over soon. I’m not hopeful.
     
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    Hi BarNone: I share your concern Re: Drake. He’s not a Thibideaux, he’s a Drake Jackson. This experiment is on Orlando though.
     
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    Metro: Very good point about abysmal clock management too
     
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    Ok, but four tackle assists isn’t a productive game. He’s not a 9-tech OLB. Not quite fast enough but inside the box he’s a mismatch.
     
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    I know that a lot of former players showed up and supported the program when Carroll was HFC. But, I know that he and staff made them feel welcome. Not sure if Helton and his staff have done the same. Then you have the fact that if you are a former great that is use to tough, proud physical football, you might be embarrassed by the current program.
     
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    When Mike Garrett left, I did not see the next three Athletic Directors to be so incompetent and indefferent with Football.
     
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    Hi Kevin,

    I am trying to see this as if an outsider. Over the years, I saw coaching hires failed in Michigan, UCLA, and Texas A&M, or others. As an outsider you see it coming, when it is at USC, you try to deny, hope that it works, and all that.

    All my hopes are going South at the moment. We need a coaching change, but it has come to a position that a normal average coach won't be able to resurrect it anymore.

    I mean, who fires a head coach and hires his best friend (pretty much a twin) in the same season to follow up with promoting an unheard quarterback coach. If you can think as an outsider, all decisions could have been avoided.

    But the real question is, how do we get out of this whole? Michigan still hasn't nor UCLA.
     
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    SC has no desire to improve to playoff level.
     
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    Kevin,

    Can you tell who missed the defensive assignments that allowed UO's two TE touchdowns? Was it Steele? Hufanga?
     
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    Whenever people bring up how Carroll used to do it I’m quickly reminded how badly the program was sanctioned because of the way he did it. That may work in the SEC, but USC won’t be allowed to get away with it again. The USC program is really hamstrung with a lot of what the sanctions brought about.
     
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    I haven't forgotten about that either. We're not allowed to - a lot of mediocrity since then.
     
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    That's nonsense. Reggie Bush's family received benefits from a non-booster, and the only hook that allowed the NCAA to pin it on USC was the testimony of a convicted felon that McNair knew. This testimony was not subject to cross examination, and he was clearly pushed to testify to this (take a look at the transcript) after first testifying to a timeframe that would have exonerated USC. No way that a fair hearing results in that result standing.

    All the while, practically every other major program in the country has stuff like that going on, and many of them had far worse stuff taking place with boosters and/or coaches in the know.

    Did you pull this statement straight from the Domer propaganda file, or what?
     
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    Are you an idiot or do you only believe whatever fits your narrative?
     
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    Have you read the NCAA's report and read Lake's transcript. I have. And idiot or not -- I may be -- I do have some skill and experience in that area. The committee's report was garbage.
     
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    I also read both and the whole thing was a joke. The problem is the reaction of the PAC-12 and the USC administration setting rules on the program with intent on seemingly handicapping the program. I don’t know if it’s changed in the past few years, but it seemed as though the reaction restricted a lot of alumni interactions which was one of Carroll’s signatures.
     
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    USC received the draconian sanctions because they had moved the center of gravity of the college football world from the south and midwest to L.A., they refused to bow down and kiss the feet of the petty bureaucrats who comprise the NZAA, and they were having too damn much fun.
     
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    Hold on a second. I agree with you that the sanctions changed the way USC operates, both in terms of the mechanics (open practices, for example) and in terms of risk-aversion of the administration. My issue is that your post seemed to buy into the blatantly ridiculous position adopted by the committee and ignorant Domers and Bruins that USC won because it cheated. That's what I was calling "nonsense."
     
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    Chris, what do you think would have been the fair punishment to Reggie Bush and/or USC?
     
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    Nothing zero. Maybe a few scholarships to say have better compliance, but after Can Newton and Oregon, the NCAA had nothing.

    The real culprit was Max and BOT that really couldn't stomach having a celebrity of Carroll's stature stealing the spotlight from them and what they wanted to do with the school. Wd could have easily defeated the NCAA if we fought the way Slive and the SEC would have fought.
     
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    Oregon? What did Oregon do? And what punishment should Reggie Bush have faced?
     

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