CB Kelee Ringo cuts list to five, omits USC

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  1. CB Kelee Ringo cuts list to five, omits USC
    ErikMcKinney

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    Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, and Texas are the five finalists for Ringo. Kid has the ability to be a three-year guy and a top-five NFL draft pick.
     
       
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    Oregon makes it as the token West Coast program?
    Damn...we can’t even make the list anymore?
    I remember when we used to be included just to have a West Coast program in the list.

    I am not sure which is worse, not being included as the token West program, or me no longer being worried about it?
     
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    We were never the token West Coast team under PC or even LK (as much as I disliked him, he could recruit). We were always the favorite, even if they were East Coast recruits.
     
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    Helton, the gift that keeps on giving
     
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    Misery loves company.
     
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    Whether that is true or not, I try not to rehash individual results under former coaches.
    If we want to be transparent though, Carroll/Kiffin and Sarkisian were very good recruiters, we just didn't have the on-field success.
    Right now, we have declined in both areas, minus our 2017 season which was an outlier.
     
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    https://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/2019/06/kelee-ringo-5-star-prospect-and-nations-no-1-cb-has-oregon-ducks-in-final-5.html

    The worst part for me - we actually have a commitment from a player on his HS team (K - Lewis), and offered a couple others from his team (Sellers/Covington)...and still can't get a sniff.

    Our CB situation is not locked-down like Oregon's is, although, UO doesn't have much depth behind their current starters. We have a bunch of names, a bunch of possibilities, but no positions locked down.
     
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    It goes to show you that most of these kids aren't thinking about life after football. If they are going to live in the west, having a college network in the west will help you more, if they want to live and work back east or down south, then that's where they should go to school. Good luck to the kid wherever he goes, but his life after football if he chooses to be out west will be hindered without a network.
     
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    When sark left, the team had no defensive tackles nor tight ends and grad transfers had to be brought in..he also lost Tua Tagovailoa. Kiffin’s job was easier because he followed on the heals of Pete’s success. Anyone following Pete would have had much easier time recruiting. This doesn’t excuse what’s happening now, but sark did the program no favors.
     
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    Kiffin also took over the team at the beginning of the worst sanctions we ever had in football. Having to convince recruits to play on a team with 10 less scholarship players and no Bowl games couldn't have been an easy task.
     
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    No that’s not exactly true. Kliff had a big class his first year if I remember correctly. Sark had the worst of the sanctions.
     
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    The kids loving Reggie Bush and remembering those PC years are done. A lot of these kids early football remembrance is Oregon's run in the Pac 12. A 9 or more win season will help a lot.
     
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    Ricks and Ringo. Although I’m not real concerned about the DB position.
     
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    I was pointing out that he had to convince recruits to commit to a team that would have only 75 scholarship players while they played there college career. Not how many he could recruit that year. Actually convincing more recruits to play under sanctions make it even more impressive. No hope to play in a Bowl game and less scholarship players playing along side you each year. Tough sell.
     
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    I thought we lost Tua because of Sark being fired....

    However, Heltons early success was with almost entirely with players Kiffin and Sark recruited (Darnold, Rojo, Banner, Juju, Adoree, Rasheem Green, Rector, etc). Helton has neglected OL and DL recruiting every year with the exception of one year in favor of WR's.
     
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    Except this one isn't "most" of these kids. As Erik said, "Kid has the ability to be a three-year guy and a top-five NFL draft pick."

    So I would say his strategy is get to the NFL and the teams listed, sans Oregon, are solid choices for that route. If he's a successful NFL player, the country is his network.
     
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    The Pete era always seemed like they'd always grab 1 guy from each western state. And only the best one.

    Arizona- this guy?
    Nevada- beat tight end in thw country and already out of that?
    Colorado- seems a good year for lineman. But none headed to sc
    Utah- need to regain an edge here

    Washington- seems to be mow and now talent coming. Tough time for UW to be so good
     
  18. ErikMcKinney

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    Yep. Max Browne was the last elite recruit USC signed from Washington. That was in the 2013 class. Trey Davis was the No. 10 recruit from the state of Washington. That's not a state that churns out double-digit guys every year, but you're talking about missing on Budda Baker, Devante Downs, Kaleb McGary, Trey Adams, Isaiah Gilchrist, Foster Sarell, Salvon Ahmed, Hunter Bryant, Henry Bainivalu, Kyler Gordon, Tre'Shaun Harrison, and Nathaniel Kalepo. And those are just the high profile recruits, not including the guys that weren't pursued heavily, like Myles Gaskin and the Oregon offensive linemen (Calvin Throckmorton, Shane Lemieux).

    The Arizona streak gets a bump from grabbing Austin Jackson and Isaiah Pola-Mao in the 2017 class, but it's been pretty lean in the state for a long time as well. Didn't sign Davonte Neal, Andrus Peat and D.J. Foster in 2012, Priest Willis and Cole Luke in 2013, Casey Tucker, Tyler Whiley, Qualen Cunningham, Jalen Brown, and Mark Andrews in 2014, Christian Kirk and Keenan Walker in 2015, N'Keal Harry and Byron Murphy in 2016 (USC did sign Connor Murphy in that class), Solomon Enis in 2018, and Jake Smith, Noa Pola-Gates, Brayden Liebrock, and Ty Robinson in 2019.

    Utah is in there as well. You had the big year in 2015 with Osa Masina and Porter Gustin, then saw some cracks in 2016, when USC missed on Leki Fotu and Maxs Tupai. Getting Jay Tufele in 2017 was huge, but there's just about no momentum in that state anymore, missing on Penei Sewell and Cameron Latu in 2018, then Siaki Ika and Puka Nacua in 2019, and definitely on the outside looking in for Noah Sewell, Van Fillinger, and Alex Harrison in 2020.

    So with very few exceptions, it's been a while since USC has been able to automatically dip into those states for the top players. It's a really good year for talent in Arizona, and at this point I wouldn't bet on USC getting any of them. They're also not going to get the truly elite guys from Washington (Smalls, Scott Jr.) and are probably going to be in for a real fight with Stanford for the guy who looked like he would be a Trojan early in the process, in Ayden Hector.
     
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    I disagree with this. If you look at Pete's last couple years, his recruiting fell off, especially on defense.
     

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