Bonfire of cash on campus

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by AtownSC, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. BlemBlam

    BlemBlam Junior Member


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    I don’t think so. On the first play of what turned out to be a five play drive, he caught the first pass for a first down. He was the X receiver ( split end, on the line of scrimmage down at the bottom of the formation) but was being bracketed by a corner and a safety over the top.

    I just found the video and he was in on every play at the end



    Adoree is maybe who you are thinking about
     
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  2. The Lizard King

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    Tollner was hired internally after he served as Robinson's OC for a year. I would know. That's when I attended USC.
     
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    Actually I bet you our administration IS that stupid. What evidence suggests otherwise?
     
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    There is more to this story. You are leaving out that JR1 years were even better than the McKay years. One national championship and in the top 5 regularly until we were sanctioned (yes we were). Tollner had to suffer through sanctions as well, not to mention we lost Goux as part of the sanctions. Smith did a good job when he first arrived, but he was a finesse coach, didn't value SC traditions, and was at odds with former players all the time. Those former players steered quality high school players away from SC. Smith suffered from a lack of talent and support, but also don't forget there were some very good years with Rodney Peete (agree with above post). Mistake in hiring JR for JR2 - JR was out of touch with college football. Then Paul Hackett, an offensive whiz from the early 80s, but a lousy head coach. Hired him from Pitt; still remember Pitt fans posting "Thanks for getting him out of here." Lucked into Carroll - then sanctions again. I wonder who we really would have picked when Pete left if there were no sanctions? Now we have one of the best compliance departments in the country, so sanctions shouldn't derail us. We just need some wisdom in the athletic department to get the best coach for us.
     
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    This sums it up right here.
     
  6. gubo&palanka

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  7. Tod78

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    You're right.
     
  8. 101Coast

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    How about paying for a good coach instead of paying "Saban" like money just because you think throwing out money will make a coach better?

    I dont care if a coach makes $15 an hour or 3.5 million. Pay for results instead if overpaying for 8-4.
     
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  9. Chase

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    I'm curious about what you mean by the term "net." Are you talking about net revenues, net profit or net income?

    According to USC's 2017 financials, revenues from intercollegiate athletics for the 2017-18 calendar year was projected to be just north of $98M. Of course, the lion's share of that is coming from football. And that, of course, is just "on book" revenues. Off book is a whole different story.

    When looking at total direct and indirect revenue derived from football, it is comfortably north of $120M.

    Now ... this is not "net." This is gross revenues, inclusive of indirect income.
     
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    Who don't what? Saban's base package is $8.3 he can and often does make closer to 11.0, but that is not his salary. Tosh Lupoi gets $1.5M with incentives, and he was the highest paid in the SEC when they took the last survey. There's too much news and not enough information here.
     
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  11. GoSC1

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    EXACTLY
     
  12. GoSC1

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    Good points, but after seeing the empty Coli on Homecoming, and the expected shellacking by ND at the end of the year, it will literally take a miracle to save Helton's job in my opinion. I believe that he has lost the fan base, and possibly the team. Stranger things have happened, and in two weeks he might be perceived much differently, but I dont think so (I hope so, but my brain says otherwise).
    It will be interesting to read the practice reports this week. That might give us some indication as to where the team's, and head coach's, heads are. I am sure they are all aware that Helton's job is pretty much contingent on what happens each of these next two Saturdays.
     
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    Ive posted this several times, buyouts are not for the full amount of the remaining contract. Great post.
     
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  14. AtownSC

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    You're halfway there.

    Why did our inept administration even give him an extension?? Therefore thread title.
     
  15. GoSC1

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    I wouldnt doubt that there is guaranteed money in that extension as well. Wouldnt surprise me. Helton's rep didnt really start to go south with the fan base until this season. There were always the part of the fan base that didnt like him, but the dissatisfaction didnt develop this deeply until this year.
     
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    Not EBITDA, just net operating margin for football only, not the rest of the dept. many schools operate on really small margins compared to us. We have some breathing room which is the whole point of this discussion as opposed to finding fault or nit picking with each other. :)
     
  17. mrsocal

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    Baffling indeed. Even after the Rose Bowl win, Helton was not in demand. The NFL wasn't interested nor were any other college teams. So why give him an extension?
     
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    I now question whether and to what degree the BOT actually cares about football beyond lip service.

    If they care at all it will show in how they respond over the next three weeks.

    I have serious doubts unfortunately.
     
  19. gubo&palanka

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    Yes. I believe Helton will suffer the same fate as Petrino, for many of the same reasons.
     
  20. USC1994

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    Not really ...many knew Helton wasnt going to work from the get go. The guy was a terrible OC, he started Sarks last year calling plays and was worse than Sark. Most knew this guy was a joke. Just tells u how good Sam was. Guy wins a Rose Bowl after the D gave up 7 straight TDs.
     
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