As of today: USC ranked #62 in recruiting with no top 200 player committed

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  1. As of today: USC ranked #62 in recruiting with no top 200 player committed
    Cardinal&Gold

    Cardinal&Gold Junior Member


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    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

    They do not have a commitment from a single player in the top 200?

    Their best shot at getting a player on this list seems to be:
    Gary Bryant Jr #82
    LV Buckley Shelton #194

    These are the Pac 12 teams ranked ahead of them:
    Oregon
    Washington
    Stanford
    Cal
    ASU
    Colorado
    Washington State

    USC is behind teams like Louisiana State and UCF? Remember when a top 10 class every year was a sure thing?
     
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  2. LoyalTrojan

    LoyalTrojan Junior Member


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    Breathe.... it’s still early in the process....
     
  3. Cardinal&Gold

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    Not that early. The last 2 years most of the top ranked players signed during the early Dec 20 signing period. Many came off the table right away. There will be a handful of guys like Flowe who may hold out but none that USC leads for that I'm aware of. Last year Clay Helton scrambled to fill the roster at the 11th hr just looking for DB's. Eventually losing one DB a JC transfer and an OT to academic issues. He then rushed to try and get JC guys to fill the class. Its looking like that's where its heading again.

    https://www.pnj.com/story/sports/2018/07/29/ncaa-early-signing-period-football-has-altered-landscape-teams/855687002/
     
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    Hope we get Bryant. That kid can ball
     
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    Embarrassing!!!
    Yeah it's early but it hasn't been this bad in a long time. If not ever. How many of the top 10 in state are looking at USC? How about the top 20? I'm not talking committed, just in the hunt.
     
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    This won’t change until Helton leaves . He and his staff have lost confidence with high school athletes and coaches - ship has sailed
     
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    I was going to write about this also. I haven't been following recruiting as closely as I used to, life and success of this team being the major reasons, but I was shocked when I saw where we were ranked at this point in the season.

    With an early signing period, being this far back at this point in the season is a huge concern. I know that the talented west coast guys tend to sign later, but it doesn't appear that we are even on their radar at this point.

    If you can't win consistently at USC and you can recruit a top ten class every year at USC, you gotta go!!!!
     
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    travyav Junior Member


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    Yes LSU recruits well and UCF is an up and coming program, but USC is way, way behind South Carolina, Kentucky, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Kansas at this point and we are behind powerhouses Tulane, Boston College, Louisiana TECH, East Carolina, and Memphis also!!!!!!

    If Helton can't recruit a top 15 class and doesn't win the conference, he's gotta go. He is not a good enough coach to win at this level without superior talent and we can't have the cupboard bare for the next head coach.
     
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    I’ve kept my mouth shut on these boards for the most part this year. Just watching and waiting. But if anyone recalls, I started a thread in the recruiting section a while back about “Getting the Hay in the Barn.” Not a panic thread. Not a “I’m worried about our recruiting ranking” thread. But thoughts about how USC has been flirting with big problems with the passive, “let it happen” recruiting mentality the past few years and how/why we we needed to change recruiting tactics this year.

    We’re not good enough to count on a sunny day on signing day #2 any more. This will be the year it comes to roost. It didn’t take a genius to see this coming (I’m a half moron and I figured it out. Lol). The writing was on the wall. The Bryce Young news was a sledgehammer. We have no bell cow to hang our recruiting hat on. Helton got bailed out by the Steele/McCoy flippy floppy last year. It was like we caught a recruiting Hail Mary to remove some sting from last year’s recruiting. slide.

    As others said, we can’t even recruit California right now. That is SHAMEFUL. SHAAAAAAMEFUL! My dead grandmother could recruit SoCal if she was disinterred and made USC head coach. But hey, “Faith, family and football” to the end. It’ll all be okay.

    The worm is gonna gonna turn on this season starting in an hour most likely. If/when we take back-to-back beatings by UW and ND and are 3-3 and once again 100% unranked and nationally irrelevant, this board - like our recruiting- will be a morgue. Let’s hope we can avoid the abyss with a shocker today against UW... and we somehow find a way to wiggle out the P12 South. Winning cures all ills. But I feel we’re all about to get the flu.
     
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    Is there going to be a big shortage at WR next year too?
     
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    Someone come and remind me to post here after the LSP is over.

    A lot can change/happen until then, we win the division/conference, a Rose Bowl berth and the recruits will come
    — OR —
    We bottom out, HCCH is fired, we hire an elite name (Meyer seems to be a popular favorite) and the recruits immediately come because of the USC name and the Meyer clout.

    Either one can happen and both will have us jump practically ever PAC-12 program on that list except possibly Oregon.
     
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    With the coaches in possible limbo, recruits are waiting to see what happens
     
  13. Trojan eternity

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    Recruits are just waiting for Helton to leave
     
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    bingo.

    Some recruits are probably going to end up signing their letters to their committed schools but look for SC to nab a couple at the 11th hour depending on the type of coach hired and how early too.
     
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    There’s one more important factor that continues to be overlooked here and that is the effect the coaching changes made in the recruiting. Although the new coaches are undoubtedly better position coaches I don’t think one of them had any experience recruiting in this area. Additionally one of the primary reasons Tee Martin stayed so long was his recruiting prowess. Does USC even have a recruiting coordinator yet? Carroll was an excellent recruiter, but his early classes were made of a bunch of 3 stars they took chances on - I’m thinking of Troy Polomalu and another being a player later given the nickname “BKU“.

    Helton has never been an identifier of talent. His forte has always been the connection to the parents and closing with integrity. Unfortunately that doesn’t sell if you’re not winning.
     
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    Troy was already here when Carroll became HC.
     
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    You’re right. I was pulling from the memory of Carroll’s first year that highlighted Carson Palmer and Troy Polomalu as the cornerstones to his first team. I was also recalling how Orgeron pulled a couple outstanding players that had a bunch of fans scratching their heads initially.
     
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    Jimmy Lake as HC would pull second best turnaround recruiting class imo because of his huge sway in PAC recruiting. But still want lake to start out at SC as the DC under Urban


    This class though Is an odd one. Imo flipping only like 5 guys and picking the right 5 of the current staffs “hidden gems”. Key guys to try to get back in on

    1- DjU qb
    2- flowe lb
    3- Washington Las Vegas te/wr
    4- Murao OL
    5- Ringo and/or Ricks ?
     

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