With 10 -2 Season Possible Helton Would Stay Put

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  1. denali15

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    You can attribute the Utah game to them being a Friday road team. Doesn't the road team--even including CPC--lose on weeknight games?
     
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    Obviously CCH is a "PR nightmare." You cite some of Kiffin's silliness, but those are hardly "PR Nightmares." Who was bothered by them? A losing season, that dumb look he has on his face all game, inane explanations for bad coaching...I'm guessing that bothers recruits more than playing games with a football. You disagree--you find a mis-inflated football more of a "nightmare" than 5-7, clueless game plans, bad hires...we have different outlooks, I guess.
     
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    Lane=sociopath Sark=drunk Helton=incompetent boob.

    Its like some sort of cfb satire of the Lannister family crown succession.
     
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    Sure, CH guiding the team to 10-2 is possible. So is me winning the lottery. I’d say the odds are about equal.
     
  5. conquest4ever81

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    Kiffin's deflating football "silliness" resulted in a $25000 fine. Say what you will about CCH, there were no resulting fines.
     
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    The rest of the college football world believes we don't take the sport seriously, because we continue to allow an inept fool to be the face of our program. I would consider that really bad PR.
     
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    The claim was that CCH isn't a "PR Nightmare," unlike Kiffin. We weren't talking about fines. Interesting that anyone things CCH is better "PR" with his dumb looks, inane comments and 5-7 than Kiffin. CCH is also more highly paid than Kiffin, so Kiffin, even with the fine, was cheaper than CCH.
     
  8. conquest4ever81

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    How many conference championships and Rose Bowl wins did Kiffin have under his belt as HC for USC?
     
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    A two year bowl ban didn't help Kiffin.


    Another L in this thread
     
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    The bowl ban would have only affected a chance at the Rose Bowl one season. Most likely Oregon would have soundly defeated Kiffin's team in the conference championship game.
     
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    Get a grip.
     
  12. denali15

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    Still peddling the line that CCH isn't an embarrassment--or even a PR nightmare? You're giving CCH's coaching the credit for that RB win? You don't think talent overcame his incompetence? That JuJu fellow...think he might have had a hand in the win?

    So...how's your favorite coach been doing with his own recruits now in place? That dumb look he always has on the sideline is enough of a PR "nightmare."
     
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    Rich coming from someone who advocates a crime against Reggie Bush and hopes he burns in hell. That's some solid thinking right there.

    Comparing the two is obviously funny because Kiffin started with a handicap. Kiffin, while being mostly an unaffable dolt, still had very decent recruiting classes despite the snactions. Helton has no such limitations and I can't remember a year where our ranking was so pathetic.
     
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    the same Oregon team that lost at home to SC.
    Not a Kiffin fan but looking back its remarkable what he did. In 2010 with nothing to play for, he led his team to a 8 win season, the same as Florida and better than Texas despite neither having bowl bans, transfers and scholarship limitations

    I was beyond excited when he got fired but I wish it was Haden that was left on the tarmac.
     
  15. conquest4ever81

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    If after the last dismal season Helton would have been replaced with a proven solid HC, I would have been happy. That didn't happen so we have to get behind the team and yes with CCH as HC because this season he isn't going anywhere no matter how many disgruntled fans chant "tarmac". What is quite ironic is that many of the fans who rabidly despise Clay support Reggie Bush and adamant about restoring his Heisman and lifting all those NCAA association bans. Here's the irony folks. If it wasn't for selfish unrepentant Bush and his scumbag parents who couldn't wait for the NFL riches that were a certainty, there would have been no sanctions. USC would have continued to be a recruiting juggernaut reloading every year and contending for NC's. We wouldn't have had to suffer through the Kiffin and Sark years, and yes through this rough period with Helton. These guys would have never been HC's for the Trojans. If you're pissed about the state of USC football today you should be blaming one guy. His initials are RB.
     
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    When I googled Coach Clay Helton I came across this. images (49).jpeg images (49).jpeg
     
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    Could be a fun game....here's my result.
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    A call center hotel....who knew?

    Or this one....
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    Actress CCH Pounder.
     
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    Looks like pretty good PR to me. images (49).jpeg
     

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