Who is Ryan Leaf from ESPN?

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  1. 23 Blast on 3rd and 7

    23 Blast on 3rd and 7 Points Member


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    Okay in the BCS/CFP era two-loss teams are in contention to play for the National Championship let's look as two-loss USC Teams

    Gus Henderson 6-2 1923 9-2 1924
    Howard Jones 11-2 1925 8-2 1926 10-2 1929 9-2 1938
    Jeff Cravath 8-2 1943
    Jess Hill 8-2 1956
    Don Clark 8-2 1959
    Larry Smith 10-2 1988
    Pete Carroll 11-2 2002 11-2 2006 11-2 2007
    Lane Kiffin 10-2 2011

    So 14 additional seasons that would fit within the BCS/CFP described above
     
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    Yet still no Helton Coaches or a Sam Darnold improvised team made it to your list. Shocking!
     
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    ESPN seems to have a shortage of good analysts for all the games they telecast - so there are bound to be some second-stringers show up as the number of bowl games to cover is huge. Wondering if Trojans in the Holiday Bowl might get someone like a Jim Mora or Ryan Leaf to cover that game.
     
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    Exactly... when you look at Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma since 1980 we are very mediocre.
    I agree 1000%. With literally every game being televised in D1, the number of broadcast teams needed to fill the spots has completely diluted the talent pool (just like expansion in pro sports). So many uniformed analysts regurgitating cliche stats and lines. They don't do the work to prepare anymore by learning the teams they are covering. Not many of us get to watch the Pac12 Network but Yogi Roth is one of the few that really takes the time to know the teams he is calling. If you get the chance to follow him on instagram, you will see how he breaks down every game following the weekend. Really insightful stuff. Ryan Leaf is a "name" and likely the reason he got hired in the first place.
     
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    Genuinely dishonest....they didn’t play as many games back then.
     
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    No I am Just using a specific set of standards in each posts and those teams met it.

    Indeed the whole point of those posts is that measuring our success purely by a 10-win standard doesn't accurately reflect our success historically for the very reason you cite - that we didn't play as many games. Once upon a time 8 wins could be enough to be National Champion.Even seven if you were unbeaten.

    My whole point was as few ten-win seasons as we have, our National Championship history as well as that our final National Ranking history is considerably stronger - because as you note we didn't play as many games. You can't win ten games if you don't play ten games. No program can.

    The ten-win standard does a disservice to a number of famously successful USC teams over the last 100 years or thereabouts. That was my whole point.
     
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    Remember, Will Derting was a 2-Star
     
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    That ex-jailbird Leaf said, "There have been five ten-win seasons in the history of the USC program." He wasn't talking about the BCS era or the modern 12-game schedule. He was referring to the entire history of USC football since 1888.
     
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    Why is that shocking - those teams were 10-3 and 11-3 . The lists specific set as minimal standards seasons with one loss and one tie for the earlier era, and two losses for teams in this most recent era. So why would any three-loss teams make either of those lists?

    Not to be-labor this but the team between the 1972 and 1974 National Champions, in 1973 only missed this list because they lost the Rose Bowl and finished 9-2-1 and a couple of other 9-2-1 teams missed it as well. The 1980 team that started 7-0-1 and ended up 8-2-1 wasn't there either.Just Sayin'
     
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    Understood - my point wasn't related to that. It was to the idea that the number of ten-win seasons we've had is a genuine disappointment or underachievement. I was pointing out that we've had a lot of teams with 8 and 9 wins in their time as successful as 10, 11, 12. and 13 wins in this era.
     

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