What we learned from Stanford

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  1. Arhedge

    Arhedge Junior Member


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    In your case, you should have played like somebody else practiced.
     
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    And it wasn't particularly good then either. I found myself yelling, just run the damn ball!
     
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    Yes, but in retrospect I think I would have received more playing time if I had practiced harder. The Trojans didn't look like they diligently prepared themselves for the game and maybe if they would have practiced harder they would have had more confidence and not made so many mistakes. Also, it seemed like Stanford outworked us in the game, just like they apparently did in practice.

    Your post above is great BTW.
     
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    I would agree with this, but it appeared that the coaches didn't trust Fink to pass at all. Which might not be a bad thing.
     
  5. TommyT

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    We will not know if the coaches learned anything from the stanford loss until after the texas game.

    Maybe when fink is moving the team on the ground try a play action pass?

    When was the last time we smashed an opponent in the mouth in consecutive games?


    It’s been said that past behavior is a pretty good indicator of future behavior so it doesn’t make for optimism.
     
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    Give it a break already. Keen is calling out the knee-jerk trolls who scream about stuff with no knowledge of the game of football. If you wish to equate Garry's analysis with that of idiots like GomerMarc, that's pretty sad.
     
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    Love this comment. We push very few teams around, and we are USC.
     
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    I just rewatched the Stanford game and Petite really struggled with missed blocks and dropped balls. Garry, do you have a timeline for the return of either Falo or Daniel I? We all wanted to get our tight ends more involved, and JT tried, but the tight end play appeared to fall short.
    Fight On!
     
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    One other add - we used 4 scholies for kickers and punters? Do we not have a punter that can punt more then 40 yards? Hopefully that will change when the Aussie arrives.
    Fight On!
     
  10. trojan9999

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    How many kickers had scholies in the 2000's?
     
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    opening drive. 3 straight runs nets a first down. Then we go to three straight passes and a punt.
    I thought we had two first downs actually. need to rewatch. I do recall a a bad penalty right before the 3 passes and out.

    We see JT Daniels leave and Matt Fink comes in, he leads a 13-play drive where 11 plays were runs (53 yard FG attempt missed). Drive has 4 first downs for 44 yards and took 5:39 off the clock. I thought it was a good run-based drive that caught Stanford off guard. JT came back in and 11 of next 17 plays were passes. Was it trying to get Pittman and Vaughns in rhythm with JT?
    If we're trying to make changes like getting players into a rhythm we might want to do that against lower level competition. I think this is just being stubborn.
     
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    They have to let Fink pass the ball, otherwise he will be no threat at all. If they have no confidence in Fink's passing ability than they need to bring Sears in as he can run and pass. There is something to be said for playing outside the pocket and extending plays. Keeps the D-line honest and slows down the pass rush, which helps out our O-Line.
     
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    I learned that for a brief, shiny moment when Matt Fink was in there that USC could have a really really good run game if it truly commits to running the ball. Then the former QB staff of three who run USC's offense ruined it all by going pass happy again with Daniels. Isn't the rule to keep doing what works until they stop you? There's something left to be said about the trigger happy nature of former QB's who are now coaches running USC's offense.
     
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    It was
    3 runs - 1st down.
    1 pass - first down.
    Offsides
    RPO - Pass, Tipped at the LOS
    Pass - Dropped by Petite
    Pass - Daniels Hurt his hand and ball was almost intercepted.
    Punt

    Here is a condensed version of the game:
     
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    A good run game is a quarterbacks best friend. Jake Fromm at Georgia usually throws the ball 15 - 20 times a game. Seems to be working for them. It's not quite as sexy but it is effective. Feed the running backs!!!
     
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    I think we learned that nothing has improved. The O-Line gets mugged, the D does not attack. The play calling does us no favors. Running story under Helton. Hope he makes changes to his staff at the end of the year to give himself a fighting chance. As is, his is a program that can compete for the south and no mas
     
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    I think that was a false start?

    Edit- I see it was addressed above.
     
  18. TrojanWarMachine

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    Someone said they ought to get someone like Matt Grootegoed somewhere on the staff, a tough guy who played above his weight and stature to whip some tough into a Helton team. Helton needs a Marv Goux type coach to push the team to their expectations, but I doubt CCH would give anyone the opportunity. He'd rather take it easy so they have "fresh legs" even though we've now seen many times first hand, that it gets your clocks cleaned on game day.
     
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    Clay said he is saving team for playoffs,lol
     
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    Former QBs running the show is a concern, I agree. Wonder if they truly understand what a physical practice is since their whole purpose is to AVOID hitting, and they generally are not allowed to be hit in practice. If a play or two are working, run them until the other team stops it. It is not rocket science. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that our coaching staff thinks it is.

    I know this will be heresy to many, but I wonder if we suffer from having TOO MANY 4 and 5 stars in every skill position. Maybe this is why we can never establish an identity because there are too many egos to feed. Just a thought
     
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