What is Bohn waiting for?

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  1. What is Bohn waiting for?
    jvjls

    jvjls Junior Member


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    I’m already a bit disappointed that Bohn hasn’t been more decisive with Coach Helton. The current recruiting class is a disaster and without players, no coach can succeed.

    Does 3 victories over mediocre teams mean anything? The right AD would say no. A strong AD would have already relieved Helton so we could regain some of the recruits we have already lost. It’s not like the old days with the February signing day, the early commitment period changes everything and Bohn should recognize this.

    If Bohn wants to make an immediate impact, he should be strong in his leadership. What is he going to learn over the next week that will outweigh the poor attendance, terrible recruiting, and slightly above average performance on the field?

    With each passing day, my confidence in Bohn lessens a bit.
     
       
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    I'm sorry but no, recently added AD comes in after a week, going into his second week and starts changes everything...it has never happened like that. Outside of a Head Coach being a piece of garbage and stuck in a large scandal.

    He just got to see the Athletic Department (which is caught up in scandals), he knows no one there, he hasn't even made changes to the current staff (fired or hired). Plus the last thing, we need is another mess, already got enough of that garbage previously. So when it gets done, then it will be done the best way possible. And in the unfortunate event that Mr. Fight doesn't get the boot? then Bohn will be another unwashed AD mouthpiece, that doesn't understand that USC's legacy is at stake.

    Which means he has one smart decision to make regardless of the final outcome, this season. Just has to remember that there's no obligation to keep Mr. Fight, no reason to take the fall for him. As it will doom his own reputation amongst many, after all that talk about learning from his mistakes during his introduction.

    Either way, don't pin your heart on fast decisions...
     
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    He's using common sense by waiting for the end of the season and bowl outcomes. Get it?
     
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    Bohn wants a win against fucla. Firing a HC that is popular with the players and replacing him with an interim coach is not going to help. So it does make sense not to fire him now, and wait until after the fucla game.
     
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    Agree with @Cyrus on this one. Helton isn't going anywhere until after the fUCLA game and if he wins that convincingly, I'm 80% sure he coaches through the bowl game.
     
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    Replacing Helton today would satiate many on this site, but totally screw the kids in the program. Especially the seniors. So if you take Bohn at his word, his job is to support the student athletes. Would ripping the rug out now help or hurt our student athletes this season?
     
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    This is shaping up to be the nightmare scenario I was afraid of before the season. What happens if Gomer goes 8-4, beats the terrible teams, struggles against the few good ones on the schedule and then claims victory: "See, I told you we would be improved over last year. If feel great about 2020."

    Either way, we'll see how the new administration and AD feel about the importance of SC football. Keep him, and they don't care about national relevance. Sack him and they want to try to return to the "bright lights, big city" scenario. Hmmmm....
     
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    I don't think beating a bad UCLA team is going to give Clay the chance to coach in a bowl game unless Bohn is considering keeping Clay another year, which would be just extending a painful process.
     
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    Sheesh.
    Let the new guy figure out how to get the danged coffeemaker in the break room to work first, let alone get familiar enough with our contracts and operating procedures to make the MOST major staffing decision in the department. I mean, Bohn certainly came in with a plan, but that doesn't mean he should rage like a bull in the china shop.

    And let the guy on his way out enjoy his Senior Day with a bunch of kids who were his first recruiting class as HC. It's better for recruiting - yes even this year's recruiting - to not pull the rip-cord one measly week early and look classless.

    Most importantly, the short-term chaos that would inevitably come from firing Helton would (believe it or not) improve fucla's chances of beating us. Do you really want to be the guy advocating for us to lose to those clowns?
     
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    And as J4SC says, beating fucla and getting a spot in the Kibble On Demand Dot Com Dog Bowl isn't going to convince Bohn that Helton is the man for the job.

    All he needs to know is Helton still lost 4 with a guy who'll be on Heisman watchlists next year and we got curbstomped by Oregon. The process will work. Things will be fine.
     
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    Just a reminder, SC generally wraps their recruiting at the end of the process, not at the beginning. Helton refuses to string 3* players along like Saban.
    SC also has to recruit more to the individual like most other teams, rather than to "Tradition" like the old days (unfortunately). This will take time, if it adjusts at all in the face of the fan rants.
     
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    The end of the season. It accomplishes nothing to fire midseason. In fact, it creates too much drama to do so.
     
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    I agree with you on this. Going 8-4 or 9-3 were the worst things that could happen if you wanted a new coach AND USC to be relevant again. Again, I think that if Helton beats fUCLA handily, he stays on for the bowl game. If it's a good opponent and again he wins handily. That would be a 9-4 season.

    He and many others associated with the program will claim "victory" because of the many injuries they endured and starting so many true freshmen at key positions. I definitely foresee the "wait until next year, we are on the right track and we won 6 of our last 7 games of the season. That proves we will have a championship caliber team in 2020. This season was always going to be a rebuilding year..."
     
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    It would be an insult to the players to fire a head coach that still has an outside chance for the rose bowl, give it a rest. We have the third best record in the conference, not time for a fire sale. Really what difference does a week make.
     
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    I agree. He's gone after the UCLA game.
     
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    Re, What is Bohn waiting for?

    1. November 24th (day after fucla game W or L)
    2. Urban Meyer to sign a letter of agreement
     
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    If we sign Urban Meyer the recruiting class changes day one. We have plenty of time. For once can USC act responsible.
     
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    Bohn needs to give the new coach a chance to salvage this recruiting class. If he waits to long he's leaving the program in danger of signing one if the lowest ranking recruiting classes in school history.
     
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    Honest question, who do you want in this recruiting class? Remember we can only pick up what 12-15 players. Choose wisely.
     

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