Washington St Releases Players Supporting Players Movement

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  1. nvargas

    nvargas Junior Member


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    And perhaps in their mtgs they'll figure out "what belongs", what's tenable, what's realistic, what would be a good "gesture" to assuage the players. Perhaps players just want to bring awareness, that some of these "political" issues play a bigger role for some of these players and they want acknowledgement.

    But at least you took the time to read the article, care somewhat about player issues and are open to hear both sides...which is more than most posters on this thread.
     
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    That's a false argument, because you're basing things off the way things currently are. No one is suggesting players go directly from HS to pro. You're mentioning that in the context of the current available system. Obviously, if NCAA or players want to part ways, the NFL would have to find an alternate path for HS players. This cartel between the NFL/NCAA would have to end. In the current system, the NCAA/NFL collude to create a closed-loop system, there are no other options, they control the whole thing.

    Baseball is an excellent example where an alternate system was created to offer a variety of opportunities. No one playing college ball is forced to be there, they prefer to be there. Very few college bb players leave after 1 year, because they chose to prioritize education. If their priority was strictly athletic development, they'd choose minor leagues.

    So trying to argue w/in the current constructs of the way things are currently is a false framing of the debate.
     
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    Right now it is the only system. Only around (4) players a year get drafted off of a team like USC. Some teams more, most teams less. Why would the NFL want to pay kids coming out of HS to play in a league? If they tell them NO the players have no options. College's offer an opportunity for players to get a degree that can help them long after sports. A bad year or two in the minors and your working at Subway. If you are one of the unfortunate players not to get drafted you can have a career and being an alumni you have great opportunities. These kids are looking a gift horse in the mouth.
    I guess I should add that this is all my opinion. It is my point of view and nothing more.
     
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    These players do have professional options. “In order for a person to be able to play arena football, they must be at least 18 years old, must be in peak physical condition and must be able to pass through the try out process. Arena football teams will only choose players they deem to be the best fit for the team.” I think the starting pay is $550 per game. Not sure they have an average attendance. But don't forget, Kurt Warner came from Arena football, so there is a chance to make the NFL.
     
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    Correct about all and Tom Lewis had a good not great career. It was probably not fair that Stan Morrison, who recruited all four, was fired, but that being said Raveling could have handled this better. It would have benefited him as coach to have players of this calibre.
     
  6. nvargas

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    You're basing your hypothetical on a couple things:

    1. Colleges abolishing FB altogether
    2. Being an alum of Oregon St. doesn't really amount to much. You're basing your opinion off schools like SC/UCLA/Stanford/Cal.
    3. Forcing kids to go the route of college to get to pros is a silly concept, it's very nanny to impose what you think is best for their future and make it mandatory.
    4. We're not being honest in this debate, many kids (especially the better players), aren't really on a route to graduate and aren't academically focused.

    But there's always this alternative to this whole debate - the NCAA /schools can figure out that they're the ones looking the gifthorse in the mouth by denying kids a bigger share of their enormous pie and stop being hypocrites when they're paying HC's $10M, assistants $2.5M, Conf Prez $5M then telling players they should be grateful for a scholarship. You know, a scholarship doesn't really cost SC $70k right? What they charge someone off the street isn't what it actually costs them.
     

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