Utah WR Arrested for Kidnapping and Rape of a Minor

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  2. gubo&palanka

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    Castration would be a fitting punishment. That or 20 years, kid. You decide.
     
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    Extremely messed up.

    If true, this young lady will have to deal with this emotionally the rest of her life
     
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    From a Detective's perspective, there are serious questions here. I suspect that the outcome of all of this will be different and probably reduced.
    From my limited knowledge from the only info being in the news articles, I have developed two primary focuses. 1) I would re-interview the girl and clarify her "being pressured to send nude photos, and then again to go to the guy's apartment". These are two breaches of the safety zone she had between her and the young man, and she is the one who breached them.
    2) I would want to clarify the conversation between her and the young man in the apartment. Simply because kids don't talk that way. Especially saying, "I am only 17", after sending nude photos.
    Remember, there are only 3 years separating these two, and essentially he is a kid too. There is nothing so bad in a situation like this, as falsely accusing someone of rape. I am pretty sure there has been some sort of prior relationship between these two, no matter how benign.
    Let the Detectives do their jobs, and let's not castrate this kid just yet.
     
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    She's 17, that makes her a minor, and puts sexting under the child pornography category. A minor is unable to provide consent so it doesn't matter whether she felt pressured or not. The law does not view her as having the capacity to give consent. Child pornography also brings the crime under both state and federal violations consideration.

    In Utah, the law "provides that a person 18 years of age or older who solicits a person younger than 18 to distribute pornographic material or deal in material harmful to a minor is guilty of a third degree felony and is subject to specified penalties. Also,

    According to Utah Code 76-5b-201, “(1) A person is guilty of sexual exploitation of a minor: when the person:

    (i) knowingly produces, possesses, or possesses with intent to distribute child pornography; or

    (ii) intentionally distributes or views child pornography;

    Sexual exploitation of a minor is a second degree felony and charges for sexual exploitation of a minor can be multiplied depending on how many minors are depicted and/or how many times the same minor appears in different pictures or videos.

    Utah Code 76-10-1206 warns “(1)A person is guilty of dealing in material harmful to minors when, knowing or believing that a person is a minor, or having negligently failed to determine the proper age of a minor, the person intentionally:

    (a) distributes or offers to distribute, or exhibits or offers to exhibit, to a ( . . . ), any material harmful to minors;

    (b) produces, performs, or directs any performance, before a minor ( . . . ) that is harmful to minors; or

    (c) participates in any performance, before a minor ( . . . ) that is harmful to minors.

    (2) (a) Each separate offense under this section committed by a person 18 years of age or older is a third degree felony ( . . . )

    (b) Each separate offense under this section committed by a person 16 or 17 years of age is a class A misdemeanor.

    Yes, I imagine further discovery will prove her allegations false or not but there is no doubt that he has committed a crime here. Not to mention, "Salt Lake police detective Greg Wilking said there is “some indication” there “might be other victims.” If there are other victims and if she sent and/or received images from him, it isn't rape, but it is child pornography.
     
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    Is he related to the previous Miami WR Brett Perriman?
     
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    While his behavior is rotten behavior, and I'm not justifying it, authorities look at the age difference. A 40 year old man is likely to be treated more harshly.
     
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    You have correctly stated the statutes he was charged on. However, like it or not 17 years old has generated a great deal of precedence and the closer to 18, the more common the strict letter of the law is not followed. The closer in age that the suspect happens to be is also considered.
    This is reality, especially if the sexual encounter was consensual.
    I based my perception on that reality.
    I didn't even address the strong possibility that she had lied to him about her age. Again, 17 year olds don't talk like she was quoted. It looks like what I used to refer to as a "fill in the blanks" kind of thing on the part of the reporting officer.
    There would be no need for judges if statutes were applied in black and white.
     
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    As it should be.
    Growing up, i new plenty of 18, 19, 20 year old's dating 16 and 17 year olds...usually the one over 18 was a male, but not always.
    My girl friend in HS was 2 years younger than me and we did not break it off when I turned 18; I think there is a "pre-existing relationship" exemption in some/most/all? states.

    Any law should be flexible to the situation at hand.
     
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    Not directly as far as I know. I remember Bret had a son who played in the NFL. But, he’s from Miami and has the same last name, so I would say there is a better than even chance there is some kind of tie there.
    It’s South Florida, so if your name is Rolle or Poitier, there is a good chance you are from the Bahamas and are related. I mean I’ve never met someone with those last names who weren’t related somehow. Pretty sure tPerriman is also a Bahamian name.
     
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    Interesting....with all those underage little girls taken by dirty old Mormon men (Warren Jeffs) in Utah over the years, would have thought the consent age was 13 in that backwards state.
     
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    Warren Jeffs and his savage klan hopefully met with the same. Florida kid going to learn now, he's not Leinart or Roethlisberger. #innocentuntilprovenguilty
     
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    What Is the Age of Consent for Sex in Utah?

    Utah is among the few U.S. states that have separate ages of consent for women and men. For women, the age of consent in Utah is 16 years old. While for men, it is 18 years old. However, for women between the ages of 16 and 18, there are some restrictions. No person under the age of 18, male or female, can legally consent to sex with a person who is more than 10 years older than the minor.
     
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    Exceptions for Minors
    In Utah, a minor aged 14 or 15 can legally consent to have sex with a person who is less than 4 years older. For example, a 14 year old can consent to sexual intercourse with a person as old as 17 years of age.
     
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    Its a backwards state! Very disgusting.
     
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    Meant Mark Sanchez not Leinart. But, if Perriman is found guilty in a court of law based on the facts, judge need to throw the book at him.
     
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    FTR, I didn't even address the rape claims. My comments were specifically directed at the sexting, or in this case, child pornography.
     
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