Merlin4SC Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 2,596 Likes Received: 1,878 Sep 13, 2019 #41 Ahem,.... FireHose. . . . hy·per·bo·le /hīˈpərbəlē/ Exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. Why do you automatically assume that Meyer had control over all the above you cite; "details of the activities at some of these departments, partners, and facilities?" After the media had a microscope up his ass for years now, what more "possible many more things left to be revealed as well" are you expecting to hear at this point? It seems to me the sanctimony is really about your desire to "sideline a bad optics," and obviously many others want the same. But our football program doesn't really have bad optics. sanc·ti·mo·ny /ˈsaNG(k)təˌmōnē/ the action or practice of acting as if one were morally superior to other people. Urban placed Smith on leave when he ordered the investigation on the third occasion because Smith wasn't getting his shit together even though Urban attempted to help him get counseling several times. Reality is Urban should not have brought Smith to OSU. Unfortunately, it is rare that ADs can dictate to HC hires who they must retain on staff. I recall Garrett doing that with Pete Carroll and Coach and and Coach P were the only ones Pete agreed to keep. Maybe that's a good thing, but that is the same jeopardy and risk you would face with any HC hire. Once again, I always have to point out -- as the rhetoric flies back and forth -- that I do not like Urban Meyer the man for other reasons, but Zach Smith is a convenient excuse for many to hate him. I like Urban Meyer the coach and I only want to see us get back into the CFP conversation and win conference championships, which would happen in short order. I also know Urban wants to retire here in LA and would likely do so in a few short years. I just want everyone to be real about their feelings and ask why they feel that way and also for them to be honest about priorities, and for SC football not to revert to Tollner days and certainly to stop the clown show. jjg4sc likes this.