These pick plays are total BS!

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  1. These pick plays are total BS!
    Stevie Blue

    Stevie Blue Junior Member


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    So the championship of college football is won on a pick play. Something needs to be done on these stupid plays. Yes, I know everyone runs them including USC. They are called as penalties a certain percentage of time and very selectively I may add. Like the one against JuJu that got picked up since the ball was thrown behind the line. Something needs to be done. Very unfair.
     
       
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    The picks were as egregious as I've ever seen. I wanted Clemson to win, but that was highway robbery!

    How can the officials blow that call twice? Man, didn't want Bama to win another NC, but it was bad.

     
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    In the post game interview Watson just said

    "We knew that they were going to play cover zero when we were inside the 5 and alls we needed was a good pick by Taye. Taye picked him and Refro got into the endzone and I just kinda threw the ball and he caught it. It is something we worked on all year"

    Watson admitted to cheating in the interview. Total BS
     
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    Money on Bama? lol sucker
     
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    I saw the pick plays but Bama got away with some pretty dirty head shots. It all evens out. Congrats Clemson.
     
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    Oh man....deflation.....but the spirit of this thread is correct. Especially when they flipping planned for it
     
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    Wow, yeah final one was so blatant. Saban has a right to be pissed on that.
     
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    I've been "researching" this a bit and some say it was a LEGAL pick. (?)
     
  9. trojan07

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    On the last play, the pick at least was made as a result of the receiver being pushed down... at least that's how he made it look
     
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    How was this a blatant pick? The Bama defender pulled the receiver to the ground. I'm not buying this one. But we get called on that way more than others.
     
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    Last play looked more like a mugging than a pick.
     
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    My whole point is that this is a bs subjective penalty. The Clemson QB admitted it was a pick so there is no real debate. So either allow it or disallow it. But it needs to be called the same way in every game and in every circumstance, or not at all. It is time to fix the Rule.
     
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    It was legal. The Wr was slipping and the DB locked him up as he fell forward.
     
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    Blue blood I'm with you it looked the other receiver was actually almost blocking his man and pretending to fall down
     
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    A pick is legal if the receiver is blocking his own defender. It is illegal if he blocks or impedes the OTHER receiver's defender. Got it? That is why that last play was totally legal (and yes, even more so because he was mugged to the ground by the Bama defender).
     
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    Play is legal, but probably shouldn't be. Too many rules favor the offense. But offense brings in the money to college football.
     
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    Refs swallowed their whistles all night. Both teams got theirs. It's the replay official that needs a good castration. He had to be a bama fan?
     
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    Oh waaaaaaaa!! The Crimson Cheaters lost fair and square. You get some calls and you get some called against you. Meh, that's the game. Live with it.
     
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    Whoever invented this play was a genius. It's up to the offense to run it right and the refs to see it right.
     
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    The last play wasn't illegal and IMO not even a pick. There were pick routes a lot worse that game. The DB slipped and went over the "pick". The play might have been a designed pick route but it didn't turn out that way. I'm guessing that's why Watson said what he said in the interview. We run pick plays too. Great play to run.
     
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    Here's photo evidence

    Don't bet on a rematch.

     
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    I have seen it most always on third down where a penalty will not hurt them, so coaches know is borderline. Defense needs to game plan, maybe blitz the inside corner and drop a lb to cover the outside crossing man
     
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    I was floored that - I think it was Anderson - didn't get a targeting penalty in that first quarter late hit on Watson. He launched himself at Watson and slammed his forearm into his head. That was more blatant than Cam's and he was flagged for the targeting.
     
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    That pick play by the book should have been flagged. He took out BOTH defenders. One low and forced the other to go around which left Hunter wide open. Oh well, you get the call, you don't get the call. That's what can happen.
     
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    Yep...as we always used to say when I played sports - if you leave the outcome up to the referees, it's your own fault for not taking control.
     
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    It's only a penalty if he picks the guy covering the intended receiver. That didn't happen so it was clean.
     
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    Pick or no pick it was poor strategy on the part of Alabama. They should have just tackled the receivers so time ran out and Clemson would be forced to kick a FG on an untimed down. Similar strategy to when Baltimore took a safety to end the game.
     
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    I would make it legal anyway.....they call it inconsistently. Change the rule and allow it if hands are not used.

    I think they allow too much hand contact by the defensive backs and call pass interference with no consistency either. I played defensive back in the days when you were not allowed to put hands on the receiver, grab his jersey, etc. The scores were not noticeably higher.
     
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    On the one yard line, the receiver can drive block because of the potential run play (until the ball is in the air). That the receiver blocked his man into the cover guy is totally legal as long as the blocker relents when the ball is in the air. Had Renfro not cleared, then Watson would run to the pylon. This would not apply on a similar play from beyond the three yard line.
     
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    OP misses that the play is legal. Especially in how it was run for the winning score. If anything the BAMA defender saw it coming and tried to pull down the receiver.

    There was no cheating. Game over.
     
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    The one thing I know. When WR's are running to get open, they try to AVOID the DB....like the Clemson WR that caught the winning TD did. Only when blocking, does a receiver run directly into, to engage the man. That the issue here. The Clemson receiver ran into the DB like a guard would do a DT.

    The Bama DB grabbed the receiver when he felt what was happening, and didn't want to get driven back, and fall. It was a pick, plain and simple....the refs decided to swallow the whistle.That game should've went into OT, after a Clemson FG attempt.
     
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    There was no pick whatsoever on the winning TD. The outside corner grabbed the outside receiver and dragged him down. Regardless, the receiver never got within a yard or 2 of the inside DB. Not even close to a pick.
     
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    That officiating crew called nothing all game. Bama should have had 2 players ejected and several other calls for PI.
    At least they were consistent in letting things go.

    If that crew had called the Rose Bowl, USC wins by 10. At least one of the PSU TD's never happens.
     
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    Yah2002 and Stevie you guys are saying it was a pick - it was - so what. That is a legal play if done correctly. And it was. The DB covering Renfro never came in contact with the inside receiver - mainly because the DB grabbed him and pulled him down.

    But either way it was a legal play - especially the way it went down. I hate it when I see it against us but love it when we do it correctly.

     

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