The Truth... 101Coast Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 2,295 Likes Received: 959 Nov 22, 2018 #1 Except the Penn State coach part. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=337217470399342&id=100023332743167
Except the Penn State coach part. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=337217470399342&id=100023332743167
Gjimmy Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 253 Likes Received: 315 Nov 22, 2018 #2 It’s clear for everyone to see. It’s just up to USC to decide if they want to compete seriously in football anymore. The longer Clay stays the deeper the hole will get.
It’s clear for everyone to see. It’s just up to USC to decide if they want to compete seriously in football anymore. The longer Clay stays the deeper the hole will get.
trojan07 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 17 Likes Received: 26 Nov 23, 2018 #3 It's very obvious USC is not serious about football anymore... hasn't been for years... football is an afterthought to the admin and the student body... these kids now will be alumni soon enough and then it will be an afterthought to alumni as well...
It's very obvious USC is not serious about football anymore... hasn't been for years... football is an afterthought to the admin and the student body... these kids now will be alumni soon enough and then it will be an afterthought to alumni as well...
tenku Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 1,643 Likes Received: 1,385 Nov 23, 2018 #4 Snoop is right about one thing, "I love SC, but they weak." Weak coach = weak team. Will support any USC coach and team, but doesn't mean they aren't weak. USC92, DaFireMedic and Cardinal&Gold like this.
Snoop is right about one thing, "I love SC, but they weak." Weak coach = weak team. Will support any USC coach and team, but doesn't mean they aren't weak.
J4SC75 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 1,447 Likes Received: 1,368 Nov 23, 2018 #5 How many times, as a USC alum, have I heard this? The Tollner era, the late Larry Smith era, and then the Hackett era. SC doesn't care about football and these smart new students don't like football. Of course Pete Carroll proved all that wrong - arguably the best SC football over time ever. The issue has always been about leadership, something SC has screwed up over time as well, especially as college sports have become big money. We haven't had a great AD in forever - Mike McGee was an outsider who was awful - forced us back to the insider AD train. Garrett was an embarrassment - more NCAA sanctions under his watch than any other AD in our history. We need some forward thinking administrators to treat the athletics program like the big business it is and recruit, nationally, the best AD to come in and continue to grow our business, starting with a great football program.
How many times, as a USC alum, have I heard this? The Tollner era, the late Larry Smith era, and then the Hackett era. SC doesn't care about football and these smart new students don't like football. Of course Pete Carroll proved all that wrong - arguably the best SC football over time ever. The issue has always been about leadership, something SC has screwed up over time as well, especially as college sports have become big money. We haven't had a great AD in forever - Mike McGee was an outsider who was awful - forced us back to the insider AD train. Garrett was an embarrassment - more NCAA sanctions under his watch than any other AD in our history. We need some forward thinking administrators to treat the athletics program like the big business it is and recruit, nationally, the best AD to come in and continue to grow our business, starting with a great football program.
USCTFL Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 651 Likes Received: 656 Nov 23, 2018 #6 At least get someone who hates kale.
Damien Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 539 Likes Received: 369 Nov 23, 2018 #7 Pretty sure Reggie and his family are the reason we are where we are today. Without those sanctions, SC would have been able to hire a legit HC and not Kiff/Sark disaster and this Helton would have never been the coach. The fear of a depleated roster due to "normal" physical practices has taken its toll and we see the results. This all started there and if there were no sanctions I believe SC would have hired a proven HC after the Kiffin disaster but nobody worth anything wanted the job so they hired Sark and hoped for the best. If Swann wants to retain Helton, that is his right. If he gets someone new, it should be someone who will bring toughness and a killer instinct. We need a coach who has something to prove, ala Pete, so they can satisfy the chip on their shoulder. See Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, etc. But in a coach.
Pretty sure Reggie and his family are the reason we are where we are today. Without those sanctions, SC would have been able to hire a legit HC and not Kiff/Sark disaster and this Helton would have never been the coach. The fear of a depleated roster due to "normal" physical practices has taken its toll and we see the results. This all started there and if there were no sanctions I believe SC would have hired a proven HC after the Kiffin disaster but nobody worth anything wanted the job so they hired Sark and hoped for the best. If Swann wants to retain Helton, that is his right. If he gets someone new, it should be someone who will bring toughness and a killer instinct. We need a coach who has something to prove, ala Pete, so they can satisfy the chip on their shoulder. See Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, etc. But in a coach.
Jpltrojan Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 2,958 Likes Received: 2,632 Nov 23, 2018 #8 Not to rehash but the typical penalty for one player taking benefits was 2 lost scholarships. Nope, the sanctions mess was 100% on the SC Pimp. Under that clown a decision was made to not hire a NCAA law firm to represent SC's interest and to simply plead ignorance. Furthermore, the SC pimp hired a TV color man to lead the athletic department and to pay him twice the going rate for AD's. But it didn't end there...then he tried to sweep two scandals under the rug that are likely to cost SC in the general vicinity of $500 million. Not to put too fine a point on the matter but the SC BOT under John Mork's leadership rewarded the Pimp with a lifetime seat at the table. So no, SCs problems start with a group of clowns called the Board of Trustees. Ride Fly likes this.
Not to rehash but the typical penalty for one player taking benefits was 2 lost scholarships. Nope, the sanctions mess was 100% on the SC Pimp. Under that clown a decision was made to not hire a NCAA law firm to represent SC's interest and to simply plead ignorance. Furthermore, the SC pimp hired a TV color man to lead the athletic department and to pay him twice the going rate for AD's. But it didn't end there...then he tried to sweep two scandals under the rug that are likely to cost SC in the general vicinity of $500 million. Not to put too fine a point on the matter but the SC BOT under John Mork's leadership rewarded the Pimp with a lifetime seat at the table. So no, SCs problems start with a group of clowns called the Board of Trustees.
qqqqqqqman Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 3,529 Likes Received: 4,551 Nov 23, 2018 #9 Snoop always gets it....don’t understand the hate for him by some. He loves ‘SC. He only had to don some bRuin game for his weird son. He’s right on. uscjrl98 likes this.
Snoop always gets it....don’t understand the hate for him by some. He loves ‘SC. He only had to don some bRuin game for his weird son. He’s right on.
uscjrl98 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 1,324 Likes Received: 1,853 Nov 23, 2018 #10 The real concern that we should have is that Snoop does have credibility with the high school recruits in Southern California and if these kids are telling Snoop that we are weak then recruiting has just gotten much more difficult. Unless we change this perception we may be in serious trouble as a program. yah20002 and qqqqqqqman like this.
The real concern that we should have is that Snoop does have credibility with the high school recruits in Southern California and if these kids are telling Snoop that we are weak then recruiting has just gotten much more difficult. Unless we change this perception we may be in serious trouble as a program.
Damien Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 539 Likes Received: 369 Nov 23, 2018 #11 Max should have never been president but all thought he could raise money. I am not a fan of Haden or Max, but Reggie and his family put SC in a position to make decisions and the SC leadership failed. The Bush family are the cause of all of this. Poor leadrship only made it worse. I am not sure SC will ever recover from the foreigner "pimp"
Max should have never been president but all thought he could raise money. I am not a fan of Haden or Max, but Reggie and his family put SC in a position to make decisions and the SC leadership failed. The Bush family are the cause of all of this. Poor leadrship only made it worse. I am not sure SC will ever recover from the foreigner "pimp"
TrojanMarc3 Member Joined: Nov 11, 2018 Messages: 22 Likes Received: 18 Nov 23, 2018 #12 He's right about a lot of things, but i'm over this uptempo shit. Perhaps we don't have the right coach for it, but our advantage is we recruit bigger and better than 99% of the country, we need to be about offensive and defensive line dominance.
He's right about a lot of things, but i'm over this uptempo shit. Perhaps we don't have the right coach for it, but our advantage is we recruit bigger and better than 99% of the country, we need to be about offensive and defensive line dominance.
