The new DC will be the next Head Coach BarNone Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 502 Likes Received: 709 Dec 29, 2019 #1 probably wishful thinking since one would think no top level candidate would take a job under Dead Man Walking Helton - UNLESS the candidate sees this as the quickest way to take his job mid-season next year. In this scenario, Del Rio makes sense. I have had reservations about Captain Jack as being the answer due to his offenses over the years, but at this stage i am desperate for the toughness he would bring Day One. If we want to bring back the USC toughness, there would be no quicker way to do it than Del Rio. I'm sure this is purely my fantasy and instead Clay will find some mediocre candidate to replace Clancy. But if we see someone of the stature of Del Rio, then this would be their reason. I can't picture Jack having any respect for Clay. Esthersar and TroyWill like this.
probably wishful thinking since one would think no top level candidate would take a job under Dead Man Walking Helton - UNLESS the candidate sees this as the quickest way to take his job mid-season next year. In this scenario, Del Rio makes sense. I have had reservations about Captain Jack as being the answer due to his offenses over the years, but at this stage i am desperate for the toughness he would bring Day One. If we want to bring back the USC toughness, there would be no quicker way to do it than Del Rio. I'm sure this is purely my fantasy and instead Clay will find some mediocre candidate to replace Clancy. But if we see someone of the stature of Del Rio, then this would be their reason. I can't picture Jack having any respect for Clay.
flyfishintrojan Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 5,872 Likes Received: 3,647 Dec 29, 2019 #2 Probably Conquest81. TwistofFate, TheTrojanKnight and Trojack like this.
LaissezFaire28thStUSC Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 3,231 Likes Received: 5,393 Dec 29, 2019 #3 Don't be so sure Clay will do the hiring. Bohn may be trying to save his job. Bohn might have given Helton an ultimatum resulting in three defensive coaches leaving yesterday. Bohn may be telling Helton who to hire as a condition for keeping his job. Bohn said Helton will be the coach in 2020. If Bohn fires Helton Wednesday, his statement would be true. redeye and crank31 like this.
Don't be so sure Clay will do the hiring. Bohn may be trying to save his job. Bohn might have given Helton an ultimatum resulting in three defensive coaches leaving yesterday. Bohn may be telling Helton who to hire as a condition for keeping his job. Bohn said Helton will be the coach in 2020. If Bohn fires Helton Wednesday, his statement would be true.
August West Points Member Joined: Sep 15, 2019 Messages: 9,001 Likes Received: 10,833 Dec 29, 2019 #4 This approach/mentality is exactly why we are in the position we are in. The same fans that bitch about our current situation are the same folks advocating JDR, Richard, Claiborne for DC. The definition of insanity is.......
This approach/mentality is exactly why we are in the position we are in. The same fans that bitch about our current situation are the same folks advocating JDR, Richard, Claiborne for DC. The definition of insanity is.......
BuTrojan Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 395 Likes Received: 424 Dec 29, 2019 #5 The assistant coaches won’t matter unless you change the HC and it’s lazy, soft culture Troy70, redeye and TwistofFate like this.
Major toor Points Member Joined: Dec 22, 2017 Messages: 409 Likes Received: 325 Dec 29, 2019 #6 Ron Rivera is available. Jdr as d coordinator
Jay4usc Points Member Joined: Jan 10, 2018 Messages: 3,207 Likes Received: 3,386 Dec 29, 2019 #7 I was thinking the same thing. They have the OC locked up and only need a future HC with a defensive mindset.
I was thinking the same thing. They have the OC locked up and only need a future HC with a defensive mindset.
jiordone Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 3,290 Likes Received: 4,183 Dec 29, 2019 #8 Nothing matters until we get a new head coach so why are you people so worried about it?
Touchdown for USC Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 520 Likes Received: 461 Dec 29, 2019 #9 Isn't this like changing the deck chairs on the Titanic? RPBSC and August West like this.
J4SC75 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 1,541 Likes Received: 1,504 Dec 29, 2019 #10 No, I don't think so. I like the idea of Jack as DC, but when Helton is finally fired, open up the search.
No, I don't think so. I like the idea of Jack as DC, but when Helton is finally fired, open up the search.
13Perspective Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 81 Likes Received: 50 Dec 29, 2019 #11 We still cling to the hope that there is some other master plan "behind the scenes". Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure there is no "behind the scenes" based on what we are seeing (current coach continuing on with full AD and University President support in spite of very visible program decay). HCCH's job is not in jeopardy until game attendance falls into the 35,000 or below level, and merch sales tank. Even then, we have no indications the school will be willing to pay for a competitive HC and staff. A well-regarded name was offered a $60M deal by FSU and a good deal more by Arkansas (he's staying put) - even those schools wouldn't blink an eye at a $12M buy-out. And then consider the kind of reclamation project this program will be by the end of 2020, heading into 2021. Talent draining fast. Two years of soft Air Raid philosophy, 5 years of soft practices/lack of tackling/poor discipline. Even a great coach would need at least 2 years to get the ship pointed in the right direction before any results would be visible. Not may willing to sign up for that.
We still cling to the hope that there is some other master plan "behind the scenes". Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure there is no "behind the scenes" based on what we are seeing (current coach continuing on with full AD and University President support in spite of very visible program decay). HCCH's job is not in jeopardy until game attendance falls into the 35,000 or below level, and merch sales tank. Even then, we have no indications the school will be willing to pay for a competitive HC and staff. A well-regarded name was offered a $60M deal by FSU and a good deal more by Arkansas (he's staying put) - even those schools wouldn't blink an eye at a $12M buy-out. And then consider the kind of reclamation project this program will be by the end of 2020, heading into 2021. Talent draining fast. Two years of soft Air Raid philosophy, 5 years of soft practices/lack of tackling/poor discipline. Even a great coach would need at least 2 years to get the ship pointed in the right direction before any results would be visible. Not may willing to sign up for that.
Troy70 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 9,723 Likes Received: 10,000 Dec 29, 2019 #12 Count on SC to screw up August West likes this.
August West Points Member Joined: Sep 15, 2019 Messages: 9,001 Likes Received: 10,833 Dec 29, 2019 #13 Pretty much sums it up. LOL!
Esthersar Points Member Joined: Nov 12, 2019 Messages: 362 Likes Received: 268 Dec 29, 2019 #14 What makes you think Helton has much authority anymore? Between the early signing day disaster and the blowout in the Bowl game, his leash is shorter than ever. I think the rumor is correct that Bohn is picking the candidates.
What makes you think Helton has much authority anymore? Between the early signing day disaster and the blowout in the Bowl game, his leash is shorter than ever. I think the rumor is correct that Bohn is picking the candidates.
