Stop complaining about Helton----

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Junior Member


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    Still have to wait on the AD. And by then the season will be over. I don't believe USC will pay anywhere near the $7-8M being discussed.
     
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    Take it to the MKJ OT Board, spaz.
     
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    Disagree completely. USC has never ponied up big money for a glamour hire. Likely never will. We've had more than our share of great coaches with that philosophy and we've gotten "titles" while getting bargains. CPC was paid bigtime only after he generated the revenues to pay him. We aren't the SEC.

    But yes, I get that you want someone else to write a big check so that you can be entertained.
     
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    The fact remains that Clay is not HC material at USC and there are better options, and so far the school is on the search for an AD. If you had said that three years ago to me, I'd called you delusional.
     
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    Ya think?

    I wasn't disputing that. I was, once again, responding to a poster who thinks that the reluctance to spending big for a new hire is somehow an indication that USC is not as "committed" as in the past, when that isn't how most successful programs hire. For every 'Bama who spends big for a Saban, nearly everyone else gets lucky with hiring an up and coming assistant. And for those that do spend big, they are as likely to end up with a Harbaugh as a Meyer.
     
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    They hired Jones. He was near the best at the time.

    Pete was the highest paid HC in CFB.

    But I know what you mean. I have a gut feeling it’ll be different this time. The money is too big these days to suck.....and there’s one thing SC gets, it’s money.

    just a gut feeling
     
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    I think you're wrong about CPC. He wasn't the highest paid when he was hired. He got raises when he started generating the revenues to pay him. Yes, they hired Jones--their 2nd choice--and I've mentioned him in the past as our only high-profile hire. The first choice--Rockne--turned down the job but recommended Jones instead.

    CPC wasn't a "home run" hire, unless you can call your 4th choice a home run.
     
  8. bob c in az

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    this :)
     
  9. bob c in az

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    He wasn't the highest paid coach and he didn't get big money until he won. you always lie.
     
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    PC wasn’t the highest paid when he was hired, but he was a few years later when USC realized that they needed to do whatever it took to keep him happy.

    At least they did recognize the need to pay him a salary commensurate to other coaches of his worth, which leaves some hope.

    I still believe USC has the ability to pay a Saban-like salary if they wanted to. The only question is whether or not they would recognize the need to, and pony up that kind of cash to hire an upper tier HC. One that hasn’t already won 2 NC’s at USC.

    Meyer is really the only potential candidate out there that would command that kind of salary anyway. One of the younger “up and comers” like Rhule or Fleck could be had for much less.

    And some of these buyouts now are insane. Jimbo Fisher’s salary is all guaranteed, so if A&M fired him after this season they’d owe him upwards of $60 million. That’s absurd.

    Helton’s buyout is absurd enough in that there was no logical reason for it. A little financial wisdom would go a long way is making money available for future hires.
     
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    One gets what one pays for.
     
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    Y challenged retort!
    Kisses
    How's that ms phuck?
     
  13. USCsWay

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    OP is spot on. Helton very underappreciated.
     
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    lol
     
  15. Boselli

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    That "conference of champions" moniker came about frrom the Pacific Athletic Conference of 8 schools headed by Stanford, UCLA, USC. So they represented three eighths of the conference (37.5%).
    Today the same three schools represent 25%

    As soon as we let Arizona State and Kush into our pants the "conference of champions" is blabber. It is the CALIFORNIA conference of champions, period.
     
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    I agree. If I recall correctly, he went into his interview with Haden with a huge binder full containing his plan to make it through the sanctions. I wish someone would make a binder like that to help Helton.
     
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    Times have changed with additional revenues from playing in the playoff. USC will pony up.
     
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    Perhaps you could explain this post you made to me earlier this year.....

     
  19. The Lizard King

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    From what I know about you (very little actually), you're name isn't even Linda.

    Weird. Or maybe I have all my facts wrong.
     
  20. sctrojan2006

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    There is some truth to this. An argument can be made that the sanctions were also made worse due to our hiring practices, as well. The way USC handled its defense and the appeal of the decision and punishment left a lot to be desired. Plus all of the scandals under Nikias's leadership outside of athletics definitely hurt the school's reputation.
     

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