Spineless & pitiful president

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  1. SCBIGTIME

    SCBIGTIME Junior Member


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    So is that your deal? Speaking from experience? If a few extra trips a week to Hometown Buffet is all that it would take to get you to act more balanced, by all means, put on your stretchiest outfit and go to town...
     
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  2. DJ4SC

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    Still laughing......
     
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  3. aimeedee

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    It would be nice if somebody would act as a moderator around here. The terms of use for wearesc clearly prohibit personal attacks and profanity, yet that is the go-to tactic on a daily basis on the OT.

    https://wearesc.com/site-terms-rules/

    You may not like BV's contributions, but I appreciate more diversity of opinion around here. And, unlike what I've seen from most of the old-timers, I don't see him resorting to verbal abuse.

    As for him being someone from the South with zero ties to USC, the same can be said for the most dominant bully on the board.

    Now, if Garry wants to make this a message board exclusively for people who were here 20 years ago and had a bond with its namesake, that is his right. If he wants to make this a message board where a particular ideology is to be promoted and challenges to the prevailing viewpoint are deemed "trolling," that is his right.

    To my knowledge, the OT is a message board that is open to anyone who registers and agrees to the terms of use. Frankly, I think a message board that is an echo chamber is boring. It is surreal to see what enrages the regulars around here and what is treated as acceptable. I do not understand the hostility and verbal abuse that dominates this board or why people who merely offer an opposing viewpoint bring out such venom in people. I hope he isn't bullied off the board. And, unless or until Garry changes the mission and standards of this board, he is just as entitled as anyone else to be here.

    I'm sorry to see you lashing out like this and hope your health situation is going well.
     
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  4. TheRealAirbns

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    Lol!

    I'm sorry, but that was funny.

    You want diversity, but you've got half the board on ignore? What's wrong with this picture?

    Sure, sounds good, until we pause for the half a second it takes to remember that you're a troll - self-admitted - and he's a not-as-bright-as-he-thinks guy who goes off the deep end almost like clockwork, and acts like a major league prick. The term troll has a very specific meaning, and you certainly have a well-earned and long history as one on this board.

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    Begs the question - is it reasonable for the board's members to police the board by treating subversives like aimee-de-kook and Beevis differently? I tend to think yes. Trolls and assholes don't deserve to be treated civilly. They've lost that right.

    And if we were to insist on civility, wouldn't that merely limit the tools available to us, the targets of abuse, while allowing the abusers to continue to use all tools available? aimeedee certainly knows this. Her objective is to hamstring the board and its response to her, not to engage in civil discourse. She's proven that by her behavior, here.

    Then again, is this the best way to handle posters with psychological disorders? After all, the general tone stemming from these jerks and our responses to them has lost the board some good regular posters. Is there a better way to deal with the problem?
     
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  5. Area51Trojan

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    This is not lashing out. Trust me, people know when I "lash" out. This was a a simple statement. BTW We have had moderation in the past, be careful what you wish for. Also ARBNS makes a fair point, you don't want an echo chamber yet you seem to have attracted all the worst posters as pen pals on here, not a good look.
    You just cannot have it both ways, you either have to accept the fact you do want a echo chamber or drop all the ignores. I have one person on ignore, Ennie because he hurts my head, I mean that, I cannot accept there is someone that stupid that knows how to turn on a computer. I have witnessed plenty of stupid people in 20 years here and he hands down is the biggest idiot to ever grace this forum.
    BV is closing in on number 2.

    As far as the Mayor, I was there when he was asked to come over by this boards namesake, to me that is as C&G handshake. There is a thing called loyalty and honor, you may not think it but I know the Mayor is both. Besides my next two favorite schools are the USNA and UG and he has both those covered.

    Thanks for the well-wishes.
     
  6. Jim McNeil

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    Well there's a stupid fucking idea. Agree, disagree, it doesn't matter, handle your shit and move on.
     
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  7. aimeedee

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    When it comes to what one considers the "worst" posters, I consider the source. I don't know what you mean by "attracted," but I consider people who can make arguments without vulgar insults to be "good" posters. As for "pen pals," fssca is the only poster with whom I have maintained PM conversations of more than 1 or 2 messages. And I can't think of many people on this board who have exemplified finer character. Ironically, I would say that ARBNS was "attracted" to me (in a perfectly platonic and harmless sense) when I first posted here. He seemed to appreciate my contributions when I was articulating criticisms of Obama etc. It is only when I had the audacity to oppose Trump that I became a "dingbat," "bitch" etc.

    Not at all. I believe, as Dr. Phil says, you teach people how to treat you. Why should I have to subject myself to verbal abuse? If no moderators are going to enforce the standards of behavior outlined in the terms of use, I am well within my rights to ignore verbally abusive people. With the exception of Vball, 901, and DJ, every other person on my ignore list has called me either a bitch, cvnt, slut or similar misogynistic insults and/or made crude references about my sex life with my husband or attacked my kids. I won't put up with that and opting to ignore such people is a perfectly reasonable response.

    vball and 901 deliberately quoted people I had on ignore, knowing full well I don't want to hear from those people. Again, if there isn't going to be moderation and people are going to actively work around measures I have taken to avoid engaging with vulgar and hostile people, I have no choice but to eliminate the conduits.

    DJ, to my knowledge, hasn't been vulgar, but he repeatedly asked me to place him on ignore. He seemed sincere about it and, unlike other posters, I am not here to intentionally antagonize people, so I honored his request.

    There are plenty of people on this board -- denali, scn8ive, fssca1, southbay, linebacker, yourself, etc -- who manage to formulate cogent arguments with resorting to ugly verbal abuse. So let's stop pretending my use of the ignore feature is about insulating myself from opposing viewpoints. I come here on a regular basis, representing a minority viewpoint, and I take it from all sides. Those who are on ignore know damn well that it is their abusive behavior that earns them that status. And, frankly, when those on ignore want to pretend they have that status because they are somehow too brilliant for me to handle, they insult the intelligence of those with whom I do engage in opposing viewpoints on a regular basis.

    Well, your perception of "honor" is different than mine. There is nothing honorable about the way he treats people.

    Of course.
     
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  8. DJ4SC

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    Lol.

    Yeah, that’s how it went.
     
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  9. TheRealAirbns

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    The irony, here, is that I didn't use either term until *long* after she supposedly had me on ignore. Funny, that, isn't it? Something everyone should consider. I specifically upped my colorful descriptions of her, *because* she was "allegedly" not seeing it. Funnier, too, is that just yesterday or the day before, she replied directly to Bigtime, whom I thought she had on ignore, too.

    True, I did once consider her a good poster, and treated her courteously when she came here from the football board, as I do everyone who behaves civilly. That opinion changed relatively quickly when her behavior showed her intent was to troll us. Not as quickly as others, though; I gave her the benefit of the doubt.

    In terms of ideology, it wasn't who she criticized that lost me, it was the illogic of her political positions and arguments that did. Specifically, her original support of Chuck Schumer's bitch, Marco Rubio, and her claim of being a conservative when she favored his profoundly anti-conservative immigration positions. I pointed out to her that immigrants voted 70-80% Democrat, and it would be impossible to elect another conservative anywhere in the US, with his (and later, Johnson's) open border-equivalent immigration policies. She didn't care. I explained to her that that made immigration a keystone issue in the race for anyone who was a conservative. She didn't care.

    Other similarly illogical positions followed, as did the board's realization that, in addition to being passive aggressive, hypocritical, and almost as prone to name calling as we were (although hers were usually passively formatted), she was completely incapable of properly evaluating context and perspective.

    That was just icing on the cake later, though. Earlier than that, a couple of years ago, she finally admitted that her intention was to troll us. There's nothing passive, at all, in that form of aggression, and it's a particular form of psychological pathology that I find unacceptable on a message board. People like her need a long course of psychological treatment, not a message board to bolster their pathology.

    Quite right. She taught us to treat her like the troll she is, and that's exactly how we treat her. Well done. Others have referred to that as "reaping what you've sown." It's funny, then, that she expects us to treat her differently than she's taught us, isn't it? She expects us to treat her civilly, even though she's been anything but civil with us.

    Again, most of which she wouldn't know about, if she really had people on ignore.

    He treats people just fine. He doesn't treat trolls like her, and assholes like BvD, like they're people too, though. Let's be perfectly clear: she's trolled this board for an extended period of time. People treat her like a troll. They aren't going to stop, just because a troll puts on airs of propriety. A pig is still a pig, after all, no matter how much lipstick it puts on itself.
     
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  10. KeenObserver

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    Nah, she was always a psycho poster. She started showing her colors while making inane and almost creepy obsessive defenses of Lane. She loved Lane about as much as she hates Trump.
     
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  11. KeenObserver

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    May I also add, that the Mayor was very cordial to Aimee and even suggested I treat her better even if I disagreed with her. Only after her constant passive aggressive behavior and trolling did he turn the switch. He gave her every benefit of the doubt. When you’ve lost Cronkite, you’ve lost the war and when you lose the Mayor you’ve lost the board.

    It’s a shame but Aimee proved my initial instincts 100% correct.
     
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  12. GaryB

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    You seem to be lost a lot. I admired your earlier analysis of Orwell's essay, arguing that Orwell changed the meaning of Nationalism. I assumed that you didn't read the essay or care for its historical significance. And, by trivializing it, you completely miss the interaction between Trump and Macron, or the logic in Trump skipping the subsequent ceremonies.

    Now, in a second posting, you apply the same technique. You place yourself as the arbiter of what conservative means and declare that Aimee's claim of being a conservative versus her actions aren't worthy. And, you go so far as to offer evidence, using her anti-conservative immigration position.

    I have never read a definition for Conservative that didn't include Laissez-faire, which is defined as free production and trade. Yet, you would argue that a person can't be a conservative if they don't require the government regulation of labor movement.

    You seem to have missed Adam Smith's Natural Laws "Laissez-faire, a product of the Enlightenment, was "conceived as the way to unleash human potential through the restoration of a natural system, a system unhindered by the restrictions of government".

    Likewise, you seemed to have missed George Orwell's comments about Nationalism in the same vein. Orwell commented on expanding the meaning of Nationalism beyond Nations, which you used to argue that he changed the definition, much like you are arguing for the government to regulate labor movement.

    In order for you to be successful in combining Nationalism and Conservatism, you have to either identify with National Conservatives which are typically socialists; or you have to change the definitions of Nationalism and conservatism, which you seem to be arguing.

    The laziest argument is patriotism and nationalism are synonymous and conservatives oppose free labor movement or immigration. In fact, Nationalists oppose immigration because it destroys a national identity. But, restricting labor movement via government regulation isn't consistent with traditions, which is the basic definition of Conservatism.

    So, what are you Real?
     
  13. BvB09

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    What does being from the south have to do with anything? Your last sentence is completely false. In every respect.

    Why are you people so damned mean and angry all the time? What's up with that? And as for my ties to USC, you're right. I didn't go to USC. I went to a small liberal arts college, but I've followed USC as long or longer than you, and I have made gifts to the school.
    But since you guys don't want me over here, I will leave. Besides, I think Ryan Abraham and Dan Weber do a better job with covering the program.
     
  14. aimeedee

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    You have every right to post here and the people who don't want you here are free to ignore you. Fight on!
     
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    As you have shown yourself to be a spineless and pitiful poster, good bye and good riddance.
     
  16. aimeedee

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    I don't believe I've taken a position on the immigration issue, other than to say that the way it is currently being championed by so-called conservatives runs counter to Christ's teachings.

    I do find it interesting that immigration seems to become the new litmus test as to what is or is not "conservative." I think these people are conflating conservatism with nationalism. Reagan was never hostile to immigrants and even said they make America great. He also gave amnesty to illegals. When Romney was running for POTUS in 2012, Trump called the GOP immigration policy "mean spirited." Four years later, Ann Coulter is declaring Trump can perform abortions on the WH lawn as long as he follows through with his immigration policy. I've never seen a voter base so consumed with one issue
     
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    Lol. That's not angry. Mild really. The rest is hilarious.
    Waaa. So sensitive. And by taking a swipe at Garry, you have tipped your vile hand. Fuck you
     
  18. SoCalN8tiv

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    Oh good, I'm am so glad you revealed your true colors by taking your parting shot at Garry, Greg, Darrell, Helix, Kevin Bruce, Chris Hale, John Mazur et al and their expert coverage of USC. It confirms you know little about quality, expert commentary. Even Ryan Abraham will concede to that. Now it's incumbent upon you to live up to your "I will leave" denouement to your drama by making it stick. Take care and good bye.
     
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  19. Ennie

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    No, stay and fight. The teabaggers on this board are trying to turn it into the Seig Hiel Club, and the only way to stop them is to stand and fight--the way the GI's at Normandy fought--and defeated--the Tea Party of their day.

    Fight on!
     
  20. nosoycucks

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    So fucking retarded.
     

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