Spineless & pitiful president

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  1. nosoycucks

    nosoycucks Points Member


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    Shes right you know. WHY ARE YOU HERE?
     
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    Did I say otherwise? Of course not. Just pointing out that need is subjective and it's not up to YOU to tell someone else what is or isn't needed. It was in fact YOU, who attempted to play hall monitor, I merely pointed out your hypocrisy. Not much fun when you get your own shit back, is it?
     
  3. old scotty

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    Beeeev bragging about his Howard Zingish history knowledge is more than welcome. We all need the laugh after seeing the thieving demorats steal elections
     
  4. The Mayor of Leah

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    I had no idea that the beev still posted here. I thought he wrote us off as despicable human beings and moved on.

    Had I known he was actively posting, given my new "kinder gentler" persona, I would not have referenced him the way I did.
     
  5. denali15

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    Oh please. Hard to imagine anyone more of a Nationalist than Reagan. Heck--Macron is probably one as well. Hard to imagine any president who doesn't put his country "first." You're arguing just to argue. Are you suggesting that a president put some other entity "first?"

    Reagan wasn't battling "Russia's nationalism." He was battling the USSR, a multi-national empire with designs on making the world safe for Communism--the very opposite of nationalism. This really isn't that hard. But since you quoted Orwell...isn't his more famous work a tribute to nationalism? In his world, the entire planet was divided into 3 entities, as I recall. He seemed to have a problem with that.
     
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    Actually, you did. You suggested I shouldn't be here.

    I didn't tell anyone anything. I asked a question.

    By asking a question? That's laughable.

    You people are always fun, because you get so fired up over nothing. Literally nothing. Over little words on an athletic forum. You'd think you were writing things people might actually give a shit about fifty years from now. Oh wait. 50 days from now.
     
  7. BvB09

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    I see you're still having trouble writing complete sentences when you've been pounding back the drinks.
     
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    And yet you’ve already made numerous posts here trying to defend yourself.


    Now that’s hilarious.
     
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  9. old scotty

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    I doubt that there is anyone here who failed to get my meaning, except the mentally deficient, like Beeeev
     
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  10. nosoycucks

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    Beats getting your spinchter pounded butt baby, thats bad for your health.
     
  11. uscvball

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    No, sorry. I suggested nothing. If I'd wanted to say it, I would. You did a great job of inferring so bravo.


    Again, you don't read well. I said you attempted to play hall monitor and you have just agreed with me.


    Hey, did I see you running in the hall just now? If it sounds like a duck...


    Fired up? Good one. Not even close, Sparky. You said you were done here....now you post among a group of people whom you believe to be self-absorbed. Seems you are the one with issues.
     
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  12. GaryB

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    Denial - Seems that we have a different understanding as to the meaning of Nationalism. As example, if patriotism is love of country, how is Nationalism different in your world? If Reagan is a Nationalist, would Reagan and Hitler be the same?

    Most people would distinguish Patriotism and Nationalism by including devotion to and superiority of a nation in the definition of a Nationalist. Of course, if you are devoted to a nation, how do you reconcile that devotion with a sovereign state? Can you be devoted to both your sovereign state and a nation? Does the nation need to be sovereign?

    The Nationalist would argue that the nation is superior and comes first. The sovereign state and all other countries are inferior.

    By expanding the definition of Nationalism to include a belief in the superiority of a nation, I can differentiate Hitler and Reagan. Hitler is a Nationalist and Reagan a Patriot.

    Of course, if I apply my definition to a White Nationalist, he is a loyalist with a sense of superiority. How would you define a White Nationalist, maybe the difference in our two definitions will help explain why we seem to be so far apart here?
     
  13. old scotty

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    BEEEV,

    whiny little puke...just imagine that other whiny little puke, Jim Acosta, in a cheap suit in Tennessee....and you get the picture
     
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  14. denali15

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    I'm using the word the same way Trump did. Not particularly complicated. Is Trump going to fast for you?
     
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  15. TheRealAirbns

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    No, you're far apart because you have *assumed* that Trump, Orwell, and Macron are all using the same definition of "Nationalism."

    Orwell explicitly stated that he wasn't using the word in it's true meaning, but was using it because English lacked a word for the meaning about which he was writing. He explicitly defined the non-traditional way he intended to use it.

    Up until now, you've pointedly ignored that fact, because it's easier for you to be a dick if you simply act like there's no distinction in the meanings each of them is using, and they're talking about the same thing. You continued to ignore that Orwell was using the word with his own, unique, definition, even after it was pointed out to you that he was doing so.

    You're also suggesting some things about Nationalism which are just silly - such as that Germany's Nationalism was the reason that it invaded Europe, ignoring the fact that it was also a militaristic totalitarian dictatorship, all of which are characteristics, along with Nationalism, of countries that export military aggression, like the Soviet Union and pre-WWII Japan. You also ignore that it was socialist, like the Soviet Union, Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and many other nations that have been aggressive toward their neighbors.

    But while Nationalism is a characteristic of these kinds of nations, it is also a characteristic of peaceful, non-aggressive nations, as well. Therefore, while it may have been a characteristic of these nations, suggesting a CAUSAL relationship between Nationalism and aggressive war-mongering, is a bit of a stretch.

    Finally, just to be clear, the US *is* superior to other nations. I've explained why, in the past, when I've explained the concept of American exceptionalism.
     
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  16. old scotty

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    Explaining that to America hating Marxists like NPD is about as likely to succeed as explaining calculus to my cocker spaniel
     
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    If Trump is going to fast, he should do it for himself, not for Gary. Losing weight isn't going to induce Gary to like him any better. ;-)
     
  18. denali15

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    Good catch. But imagine how fast Trump would be if he fasts.

    Gary won't like Trump as long as the economy roars, tax collections jump, more workers are hired...in other words, to Gary, the economy is a train wreck. He won't see this, tho. He's busy scouring dictionaries to find one that makes putting your Country first equal to being a Nazi.
     
  19. aimeedee

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    No way! He's already cranky enough. The last thing I want to see is this guy fasting. Keep him appeased with his Big Macs, please.
     
  20. Area51Trojan

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    You know what's funny. if she actually wanted to be the moderator of this board she would be in a nano second. You see, for those of us that have been around for now almost 20 years we know how this board started and by whom. You have no fucking clue what she can or cannot do if she actually cared. Since you're some dumbass from the south that has ZERO ties to USC I really wish you would fucking leave....you are absolutely worthless to this place in every sense. I have learned to just turn this place off because of people like yourself, you ruin every thread you participate in because frankly you're dishonest and not that bright.
     

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