President Trump Was Right on Dorian Threat to Alabama

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  1. 901 Club

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    She would know what is in the thread if she didn’t have 3/4 of the posters on ignore.
     
  2. Bartner

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    Ya, the technical staff at the NWS called Trump on his incompetence and the politicos at NOAA sucked up to Don. SAD! NASTY! The guy can’t admit to his mistakes, which would on second thought, consume his every waking hour!
     
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    Nice spin, barty.
     
  4. aimeedee

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    Let's be clear. Early forecasts did include a sliver of Alabama in the cone of uncertainty, but that had been changed long before Trump made his incorrect assertion that Alabama was "most likely to be hit (much) harder than anticipated. " The "earth shattering" report from NOAA -- which I had acknowledged on another thread hours earlier -- is nothing more than massaging Trump's ego.

    From Linebaker's link :

    A federal agency reversed course Friday on the question of whether President Donald Trump tweeted stale information about Hurricane Dorian potentially hitting Alabama...........

    The advisories were dated from last Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2019...



    Essentially, nothing has changed. Trump did, indeed, share stale information and they are just trying to soothe the beast by noting that old projections at least touched on Alabama. This is a pattern with the Trump administration to put pressure on federal agencies to back dear leader.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-weather-agency-memo-warned-staff-not-to-contradict-trump-on-his-dorian-forecast-for-alabama
     
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  5. TroyBill

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    Barty I managed to find a wonderful pic of you. Did you have it taken in your basement?

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    Looks like Nadler's more fit twin brother
     
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  7. Troyhorn1

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    won't matter to them...they will pump it anyway...when you repeat sh_t enough, even those idiots will beleive it true...:)
     
  8. Troyhorn1

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    yes, and then FAKE NEWS CNN actually called Mississippi, Alabama...seems more lefty trolls needing basic geography education...
     
  9. Troyhorn1

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    stop with the facts...please....please...:)
     
  10. Troyhorn1

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    Here, have the climate experts here try to explain this timeline of projections-none have yet when previously challenged...and they won't...no chart from GB on this either...:)
    CLIMATE SCIENCE-DENIAL OR PROPAGANDA PROJECTION?
    Timeline of Global Climate warnings:

    1970-We will have an Ice Age by 2000
    1976-Global cooling will cause wipeout of nations by 2000
    1989-Global warming and rising sea levels will wipeout nations by 2000
    1990-5-10 years to save the rainforests
    1999-Himalayan Glaciers will be gone by 2009
    2000-Snow will be a thing of the past
    2007-Global warming will cause fewer hurricanes
    2008-The Arctic will be ice free by 2013
    2012-Global warming will cause more hurricanes
    2014-Global Warming science is settled and cannot be disputed
    2018-We have 12 years to save the planet or we will all die
    2019-We have 10 years to save the planet or we will all die

    Keep in mind that these are the same people who forewarn us about a climate apocalypse but can’t tell us the weather for 5 days out with less than 60% accuracy. And they call us nuts for asking questions?
    And yet they still wonder why people would question their knowledge….
     
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  11. Linebacker II

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  12. aimeedee

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    Rigggggghhhhhht the Sharpie line materialized all by itself.
     
  13. aimeedee

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    Forecasting models predict the weather. As example, NOAA uses a Monte Carlo simulation model with 1000 unique simulations to predict if Dorian will touch Alabama. On the other hand, Climatologists use 30 years of collected data from solar, atmospheric, land surface, and oceans to predict future trends. As example, the oldest trend model is the Copenhagen tide chart model which has been modeling the rise in oceans since 1970. Their model predicted that by 2010, ocean levels would increase by 6", which they tracked for 40 years.

    When you cut & paste these comments, you might keep in mind that Climatologists are trending data in 30 year intervals. So, when you cut & paste an article that makes a prediction in 2018 that the planet will die in 12 years, someone outside the mainstream is making the prediction.

    The most famous example is the Time cover predicting an ice age. In fact, the scientists that wrote the paper erroneously used data solely from the northern hemisphere that had been subject to aerosols (e.g. smog). Smogs cools the temperature. If they had been more rigorous in their methodology they would have written that the globe was warming, which was the consensus in 1970. Instead, the outlier is news.
     
  15. TheRealAirbns

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    Consensus in 1970. I laughed. What a load of rubbish.
     
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  16. Troyhorn1

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    Gotta love an answer that fails to answer the question presented...you were asked to address the many faux climate projections made by so-called experts over the past 30 plus years...these are of basic common knowledge...instead, you do the "GB"...barf out a bunch of sh_t that means nothing...nice try...congrats...sigues siendo un idiota...:)
     
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  17. GaryB

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    You are identifying them as experts. Climatologist don't call them experts. As example, your idea of an expert is the Heartland Institute, a prolific publisher of nonsense that shows up on this site constantly.

    Almost all of the cooling earth stories were derived from one paper Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/173/3992/138. As I wrote earlier, the research was flawed and discredited, but it didn't stop the media from referencing it for countless stories.

    According to Science News, between 1965 and 1979 there were a total of 7 accredited scientific papers supporting global cooling. The most damning paper wrote the following:

    In the 1970s, the most comprehensive study on climate change (and the closest thing to a scientific consensus at the time) was the 1975 US National Academy of Sciences/National Research Council Report. Their basic conclusion was "…we do not have a good quantitative understanding of our climate machine and what determines its course. Without the fundamental understanding, it does not seem possible to predict climate…"

    Today, the Academy's position: "...there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring... It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities... The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action."



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    Number of papers classified as predicting global cooling (blue) or warming (red). In no year were there more cooling papers than warming papers (Peterson 2008).
     

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