Possible Dilemma For Mike Bohn

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by conquest4ever81, Nov 9, 2019 at 9:38 PM.

  1. Possible Dilemma For Mike Bohn
    conquest4ever81

    conquest4ever81 Points Member


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    Nov 9, 2019 at 9:38 PM
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    If Utah loses one more game and USC wins their next two and somehow pulls off victory in Pac 12 title game landing the Trojans in the Rose Bowl, it could be difficult for Bohn to fire a head coach who gets the team to its second Rose Bowl in 4 years. Has a head coach at USC even been dismissed in a season where he got them to the Rose Bowl?
     
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  2. LaissezFaire28thStUSC

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 9:49 PM
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    Doesn't matter. We need a top coach to recruit and win at a top level. Helton is not that coach, even if USC gets help from some other teams and manages to get to the Rose Bowl.

    After watching the Oregon game in the Coliseum last week, how do you think USC would do against Oregon at a neutral site with this coaching staff if they get to the Pac 12 Championship game?
     
  3. BESCFAN

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 9:51 PM
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    We just saw Helton “blow his wad” with everything he and his coaching staff had preparing for and coaching in this game. This was a job interview Helton had to crush. 28-7 to then hang on for a 31-26 win mainly because ASU can’t catch a football in the clutch is far from “crushing it”. SC scores a lousy 3 points in the last 3 quarters against a .500 ASU team with a freshman 2nd string QB making his first start. This is what you get with Helton & Company- mediocrity and inconsistency. I’m confident a decision has already been made to move on from Clueless regardless of how this season ends.
     
  4. tjfan001

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 9:56 PM
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    Yeah, right! Your standard is losing 4 games every season and occasionally goes to Rose Bowl.

    No, losing 4 games every season is NOT acceptable at a school like USC, period.
     
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    Nov 9, 2019 at 10:00 PM
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    You don't have to worry about it because it's not going to happen. I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, the Vegas bowl.
     
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    Nov 9, 2019 at 10:01 PM
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    I agree with you that it doesn't matter. He has to go no matter what. Right now USC recruiting is around #62 in the nation. This is fact, no top player on the west coast or anywhere doesn't want to play this HC or staff.
     
  7. 1969Trojan

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 10:08 PM
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    It's not the issue of this team going to Rose Bowl this year. First of all, this team is not going to make it to Rose Bowl. This is wishful thinking. Second, the team that played Oregon last week and played ASU today is a poorly-coached and poorly-managed team. The current coach cannot win big games. He and his team gets humiliated every time they play an above-average team. There has to be a change for the better. And that's that.
     
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    Nov 9, 2019 at 10:41 PM
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    TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION...

    ...I like the chances of a heathy USC against the Oregon I saw at the Coliseum. Everyone seems to ignore the fact USC played the Ducks with some of its most important offensive and defensive players on the sideline in mufti. Part of the problem with the offense could be that, without a running game, Slovis wears his arms out throwing and of course the other team only has to worry about the pass.
     
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    Nov 9, 2019 at 10:44 PM
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    OP is mentally ill.
     
  10. jerald grossman

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 11:09 PM
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    Same here. I have tried to be political about HC, but I can't he so bad it isn't funny anymore. He has to go.
     
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    Nov 9, 2019 at 11:10 PM
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    It won't matter.
     
  12. sctrojan2006

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    Nov 9, 2019 at 11:24 PM
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    When losing records start getting asterisks next to the losses due to injuries, then we can start using it as an excuse. As of right now, there are no such asterisks. We just have a bunch of losses.
     
  13. trojan9999

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    Nov 10, 2019 at 12:07 AM
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    Why fantasize over something that's not going to happen. Too many "what-ifs". Most likely is ucla will beat usc, and Utah will win out.
     
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    Nov 10, 2019 at 12:28 AM
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    There will be no dilemma. Utah is not losing any of its remaining games. Even if we make it to CCG we are not beating Oregon. And wins over Kal and fucla are not going to be easy either.
     
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  15. CoronaTrojanFan

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    Nov 10, 2019 at 12:49 AM
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    Given an unlikely scenario like USC winning out and getting help with a Utah loss AND Trojans somehow beating what appears to be a much better Oregon team for the Pac-12 Championship AND somehow winning the Rose Bowl against a Penn State or Michigan or tOSU or even Minnesota (now that would something!), the fact would be that after USC opens with Alabama next season and surely gets handed another big loss by a truly elite program with elite talent in far greater numbers than USC can reasonably expect to have by that time next year the whole question of where the program is will be that much more in focus than any unreasonable or fortuitous success at the end this season may hide.

    All the more reason for President Folt and AD Bohn to get on their Trojan horse and find a coaching candidate that will be able to deliver consistent results and get that person in place as soon as they can regardless of what happens at the end of this year. The remnants of the "Trojan Brand" in football is still there - tarnished a bit but still can be seen in a good number of the current USC team members who, IMHO, have done a lot more to make the team successful then the current coaching staff has. Reward those players for their contributions with getting them the kind of coaching that will help them realize their goals of getting a USC education AND getting to their professional goals with a coaching staff that will make them better and build a competitive program in the sport of football. If you have the right kind of staff during this new era of "free agency" in the transfer protocol, quick turnarounds in talent levels are possible but you have to have a program that top players will want to gravitate to - USC is one of those places that could appeal to these new "free agents" if there was a staff in place that would give players the feeling that success could be achieved. Hopefully the President and AD understand these facts and will act accordingly.
     
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    Nov 10, 2019 at 4:47 AM
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    You writing a $20 million check to the football program? The fact remains you have no idea what is acceptable to the USC admin in terms of success. I think if the Admin could wave a magic wand and get an 8-4 record year in and out with a minimal investment of money, they might take it. Even better if we broke .500 with the Bruins and Irish.

    There is no evidence, none, zero that says USC is committed to championship football. Not a speck. We haven’t hired a big name high dollar coach going back to 1960 or earlier. That is 60 years if we are keeping score, well before JFK was assassinated and Vietnam was just a place the French got beat up at.
     
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    Nov 10, 2019 at 5:10 AM
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    The only way you should worry about that is if they change the rules and the game ends after the first quarter.
     
  18. RJC15

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    Nov 10, 2019 at 5:30 AM
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    I don’t care if they some how reach the PAC 12 title game, win the title game. Make the Rose Bowl, win the Rose Bowl. Go 10-4! It’s time to move on from this coaching staff! Fight On ✌
     

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