Official: Todd Orlando hired as USC defensive coordinator

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  1. Rigged4fun

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    Helton professed he wanted to be a run first offense and we got air raid.
     
  2. PickSicx

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    If you want to know how a guy will play next year, just look at the back of the baseball card. Don't expect a career .240 hitter to suddenly hit .310 and 99 RBI.

    This guy is a 1-year placeholder. Nothing more. He'll be gone when Helton gets fired. He shouldn't even bother to unpack his suitcase—just live out of the hotel across Fig like Coach O did.

    NOTHING will change as long as the degree of "excellence" is determined by Helton. If he couldn't field a competent defense under Herman, do you really believe he'll suddenly find a way to do so under Helton. This is a sad joke.
     
  3. Innocent Bystander

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    From what I heard just as long as it isn't third and 18.

    The LSU game did him in.

    But his defense didn't do that much worse than Clemson and Venables.against LSU

    We need faster LBs first.

    Texas felt it was better to play a 4 man front instead of blitzing.

    They went after Joe Burrow at LSU on third and 18 but Burrow alluded the blitz.

    But they did get LSU in third and 18.
     
  4. heyrev

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    You mean like Max Muncy? OK.
     
  5. BayAreaSCFan

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    So edify me.
     
  6. jjg4sc

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    It’s not like he hasn’t heard the rumblings of our fan base or the accounts of soft practices...or hasn’t seen the games. He should know what he’s getting into. I feel good about this hire if only for a year, he dealt with a ton of injuries his last season but has been really good historically. Clancy gave us the same crap although he had a lot of injuries as well - but he was a known quantity. Coaching is about combinations of people. So hopefully this will help, if not - maybe we can make the wholesale change we want next year.
     
  7. trjnfnz

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    Yes his head coach was trying to control the defense and blamed Orlando for its insufficiencies.
     
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    Well, LSU did win the National Championship, and were played closer by Texass then OK or Clemson
     
  9. 023lenlen

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    Are you using 2019 as your only point of reference on TO's competence?
     
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    Ed Oliver did not go to Houston because of Orlando. Eric is right Orlando did develop the players listed above.

    "Oliver's older brother, Marcus, is a sophomore offensive lineman for the Cougars. His old high school coach is Corby Meekins, who spent 15 years at Westfield High School in Houston before joining Tom Herman's staff as the tight ends and fullbacks coach. Not to mention, Oliver has always had Houston high on his list, along with LSU"

    Orlando recruits slightly better than Clancy which is not good. Orlando does develop players though. Orlando's aggressive demeanor will be welcomed in making the team tougher as long as Helton stays out of the way.
     
  11. usc88

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    A coach has to be in the right situation for him. Look at coach O. He just won NC at LSU Haden wouldn’t hire him.
    See potential in Harrell and Orlando
    If Helton would concentrate on improving the culture instead of politics
    There are some good coaches at USC
    Just need a leader to bring it out
     
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    IMHO you have to give Orlando a chance to show what he can do - his record does show that in his first year in the jobs he has had he did get improvement in the defense in that situation.

    If USC could be 2-1 after their first 3 games and assuming the loss is to Alabama, if that game is one where the Trojans are at least somewhat competitive on defense then you would have to say things were improved. The most important game of the first three is the road game at Stanford which typically has set the tone for the Pac12 season for USC - if DCTO can get things going in a positive direction and OCGH can continue to develop the offense around Kedon then USC could be very competitive in the Pac12.
     
  13. Ccoralles

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    Did anyone bother to ask him what his strategy is to keep contain assignment football, or set hard edges? Nothing else matters to me. If Orlando can keep containment on the edges, he’s an upgrade. If he can’t figure that out, that’s ok too, that means all these Coaches will be gone and we can get a new set of Coaches that know how to actually Coach the year later. It’s a win/win in my mind.
     
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    Which is exactly why only looking at 2019 is NOT looking at the back of the card.
     
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    Read some of the other posts and look beyond just 2019.
    And analyze what really happened in 2019.
     
  16. PickSicx

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    The same could be said about Pendergast. Everywhere he went, the defense improved in that first season. But once opposing coaches had a year to see how other people attacked it, Pendergast sucked. Every year it got worse. No innovation, no new schemes, just a down-hill trajectory.

    If Orlando couldn't put a winning defense on the field with Tom Herman as the Head Coach, he's certainly not going to be any more motivated or skilled with Clay Helton as his incompetent supervisor. All of the other Pac 12 coaches who play us next year are going to be pulling up tape on Texas and looked at how other teams attacked Orlando's defense.
     
  17. Alvaro Carrillo

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    Great now let's get Chris Claiborne hired! It's not a very exciting hire considering he was just fired. But he has the experience. And his teams have put together some outstanding performances. Maybe we'll get lucky. Worst case almost everyone is an upgrade over Clancy. Let's see what kind of fight they put up against Bama. That should give us some insight into how they will perform during the season.
     
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  18. OrangeBill

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    Absolutely agree. But where? I think the jack-of-all-trades Nansen should be assigned to Special Teams while Claiborne coaches the LBs. It has been said that Orlando likes to handle the LBs in addition to his DC duties. So, if this doesn't work bring Chris in for Special Teams, but by all means bring him in, we need the energy and spirit that he will provide.
     
  19. usc88

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    What is good about Orlando is that he appears tough. Like coach O But in a likable way. The other look a good coach should have is competent
    A rah rah coach is needed also
     
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    I was never so sure soft practicing was Helton's idea as much a Clancy's. I could be wrong but mainly I think Helton just shrugs too much.
     

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