OC plans to turn Ayres Hotels in care centers for homeless in Laguna Woods

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  1. KeenObserver

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    Soggy pretzel
     
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    anywhere they picked people would complain, the point is we have a governor making good decisions.
     
  3. old scotty

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    Had to fix it for him
     
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    Expendable....you have something in common with them, then.
    Not true at all. Triage tents in a remote area. Provide treatment there. And I would still complain less were this hotel NOT located by a senior living community. I have given Newsom credit where due. However, this isn't one of those times and it is naive to think he's doing it solely because of the virus. He wants to be President some day and this situation will allow him to make all kinds of bullshit claims about getting homeless off the streets.

    I'll say it again. The homeless population hangs around with....other homeless. How many cases did we have of the flu being transmitted from homeless people to the public, say, as people rode the bike path along the canal? NEVER. You yourself don't encounter homeless people in your neighborhood or where you shop for groceries or pick up your meds. Exactly whom are homeless people going to transmit the virus to? Other homeless. Until now, and we have put thousands of seniors at risk. Stupid.
     
  5. xuscx

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    What city will volunteer for tents. Check what happens after hurricanes with their portable trailer cities. They are still there 5 years later. I wish I had an answer for the homeless problem. But when you look at covid, LA is getting 1/2 the cases in the state. Everywhere is doing great. I assume the problem is with the homeless. Until we solve that we will never have a solution.
     
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    Should come down to who was there first, the senior development or the hotel.
     
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    It shouldn’t, but if it did:

    —The senior development dates to 1964.

    —The hotel to 2001.
     
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    901 is correct....neither should be fouled by this population of intruders.
     
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    Ayres didn't even incorporate in CA until 1995.
     
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    The Ayres family have been builders in LA and environs since the early 1900s, but that shouldn’t matter either.
     
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    Yep. But old people have been in California as long as there has been a California. Some of my ancestors were here before the Ayres family started using plywood.
     
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    Did they get approval from the King?
     
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    What is amazing is the callousness of some politicians:

    (Supervisor Don) Wagner brushed off threats from Laguna Woods officials who say they are "exploring legal action."

    "They can sue us, and by the time the courts are open the problem will have resolved itself," Wagner said. "I'm not overly sympathetic. Although Laguna Woods is not in my district, there is a spot in my district coming online, so we're all in this together."

    Wagner said the hotel owners should be praised.

    https://patch.com/california/lagunaniguel-danapoint/homeless-coronavirus-patients-be-quarantined-oc-hotels

    Is the spot in his district in the midst of 18,000 senior citizens? Sheesh!
     
  14. uscvball

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    I have to laugh when the thought is the facility will be mandatory lockdown, patients will not be allowed to come and go. Who believes that will occur and how many of them are going to be willing to stay if they aren't allowed out and will have security guards?

    Wagner's district....
    Anaheim Hills, Tustin, North Tustin, Villa Park, Orange, Irvine, Yorba Linda. Lots of rural areas and wealthy folks, although not all. Saying he has a "spot" tells me he's not being transparent at all and I guarantee it won't be in the middle of seniors.
     
  15. reTiredEngr

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    Well, some people came to their senses! Or was it the threat of a lawsuit?

    Plan scrapped for housing homeless with coronavirus at Ayres Hotel near Laguna Woods

    https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/06/plan-scrapped-for-housing-homeless-with-coronavirus-at-ayres-hotel-near-laguna-woods/

    "Owners of an Ayres Hotel near Laguna Woods have asked to opt out of a contract with the county to use the 138-bed property to temporarily house homeless people who may have contracted the coronavirus, officials said."

    “We have heard the concerns of Laguna Woods residents and do not want to add more fear or worry to our neighbors,” a statement released Monday by the hotel’s representative said. “Ayres Hotels remains committed to supporting the county with our ALO Hotel in Orange, which is in close proximity to several medical facilities and will operate under strict isolation protocols enforced by the county. Care for our neighbors is the utmost priority, weighing also the needs of the community as a whole.”
     
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    Lets follow Vballs advice and build a tent city in the Great Park. Plenty of porta pottys available is USC cancels the football season
     
  17. 901 Club

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    Or purely business.

    I suspect the hotel primarily houses guests of residents at Laguna Woods.

    Wouldn’t be good to piss off 18,000 organized seniors whose support you will need when the crisis is past.
     
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    I don't know but don't mess with the seniors.
    https://www.blm.gov/visit/riverside-mountains-wilderness
     
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    Riverside Mountains are still too close. San Clemente Island is out there waiting, stop the bombing for a while
     
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