O/NSO: So it begins edition

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by Greg Katz, Jan 12, 2018.

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  2. SoCalN8tiv

    SoCalN8tiv Junior Member


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    Thanks Greg, great stuff as always. I tend to believe if USC runs a true RPO with a running QB or QBs as an instrumental part of its 2018 run game then it would behoove USC to prepare Sears, Fink, and maybe even Daniel's - if he's ready - to share that role. Today's offenses can be a two or even a three QB system with no drop-off as opposed to the traditional Pro-set where it's imperative to have "the guy" taking all the snaps and making the occasional run at his discretion - See Darnold and Kessler.

    USC over the last three years has run a quasi-RPO and I think it's screwed up the identity of this team - a lot. The offense suffers from schizophrenia and sometimes has severe bouts of amnesia. RPO/Pistol/Zone Read/Spread/Pro-set...Which is it going to be? One thing for sure is it cannot be all of those, which is what we've witnessed over three years manifested as an ugly, inconsistent, boom or bust, hybrid abomination that racks up tremendous yards between the 20s but bogs down thereafter.

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    You can win the national championship with a true freshman is a little misleading. He played only the 2nd half. If he had played the whole season that statement might be fair. yes he did make some plays that were good. He did make some that were bad. If Kirby Smart had a season's worth of tape and a month to game plan for Tagovailoa perhaps Alabama does not win. Or even if the safety didn't make a bad play on the TD pass in OT we would be talking about the stupid sack the freshman took in OT.

    So perhaps things will break right and Daniels is the man right away but even Saban waited to the 14th game of his season to give the kid a chance for meaningful snaps.
     
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    Greg,
    In all fairness, Saban stayed with Hurts to start the game, despite the Bama offense's anemia all season and Tua only getting clean up duty, and Fromm only came in after the starter was injured in Georgia's first game. They both came in and replaced the more experienced player. Which is what Helton did with Browne/Darnold in the 3rd game of 2016. I don't think you can say they were leading with the freshman QB any differently than Helton did in the same situation.

    I hope we do see a change in the OL performance, whether it is players or coaching. Something just isn't gelling with them. In some instances it seems to be confusion, others just physically not able to hold up against agressive opponent. How many of the current players were brough in by Callway? Only the rising sophmores right, and those in the new class? I don't know if we've seen yet whether he can bring them together. Given how some of the freshmen had to step in and they seemed to be no drastic drop off, I'm hopeful they can develop into the physical line we need.
     
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    Sounds like he's done pretty well in whatever task he was assigned. QB, RBs and WRs:

    Ellis, 28, was an offensive quality control coach in his first year at Western Kentucky in 2014, assisting quarterbacks coach (and current USC assistant) Tyson Helton as WKU played in the Bahamas Bowl. Brandon Doughty led the nation in passing yards (4,380) and touchdowns (49) in 2014 while winning the Sammy Baugh Award as the nation's top quarterback. Ellis then was WKU's running backs coach in 2015 (the team played in the Miami Beach Bowl), as Anthony Wales ran for 1,086 yards and D'Andre Ferby made the Conference USA All-Freshman team. In 2016, Ellis was the Hilltoppers' wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator, as Taywan Taylor had 98 catches for 1,730 yards with 17 TDs and Nicholas Norris added 76 receptions for 1,318 yards with 14 TDs (the Hilltoppers threw for 4,715 yards and 42 scores). Due to a coaching change, Ellis served as WKU's offensive coordinator in the 2016 Boca Raton Bowl and helped the Hilltoppers roll up 51 points and 598 total yards in a victory over Memphis. Before that, he was an offensive graduate assistant at Alabama-Birmingham, his alma mater, for 2 seasons (2012-13).
     

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