Musings from Arledge: The New USC, an Intimidating Coliseum, and "Strategic Enhancements"

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  1. PickSicx

    PickSicx Junior Member


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    Word.

    But let's call those statements what they really are: lies.

    Helton is lying. He had offers out to over 130 recruits who turned him down, EVERY ONE ranked higher than the 11 we signed.

    Bohn is lying. Only a complete idiot would be pleased with this. He's an idiot, but not a complete idiot.
     
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    They're 6th or 7th in the Pac-12 based on average star ranking. That's not good. I do find the 'last in the Pac12' shouts to be disingenuous, because no, we aren't being outrecruited by Oregon State, but we shouldn't be mid-pack based on average.
     
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  3. SCAnteater

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    This is fundamentally false. I take issue with this as much as those who excuse the recruiting by saying it's a small class.

    Our average star rating was 86.30. North Texas's was 83.20 and East Carolina's was 82.55.
     
  4. Rodgarnay51

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    If Helton is really as concerned about the kids and the university like he claims, why can't he wake up, smell the coffee, do the right thing and resign?
     
  5. Rodgarnay51

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    That just shows you how bad Tollner was. He recruited well and still couldn't win. Sort of reminds me of 7-Win Sark. Sorry, just trying to change the subject.
     
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    The sound of me wretching. Right there with listening to Helton after a game.
     
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    Listen to yourself!!! You are missing the point!!! You just mentioned North Texas and East Carolina in the same breath as USC. Don't you get it???? Quit defending this pathetic recruiting class.
     
  8. desertfoxx

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    Glad you came back .. thought you were gone for good after last musings
    Your comments about SC not wanting a highly ranked football program ring truer than one might think .. word was to never have another Pete Carroll era again.. well mission accomplished..

    Hope you continue your columns ..
     
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  9. SCAnteater

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    I am doing nothing of the sort, but I am tired of glaring inaccuracies like the post I replied to. Did you miss the other post where I also said a mid-pack average star rating wasn't good?
     
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  10. TruGenX

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    "42-3 in Arlington"?
    Come now Sir, you must not be a negative nancy. i encourage you to think positive.
    Of course we will score at least 6 points before halftime.
    now if you will excuse me i will just go back to sniffing glue, which i was happily doing before reading your outrageous comment.
     
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  11. travyav

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    You're not saying, " Hey! we're not 74th or 75th, we're 71st dammit!"
    Sure sounds like it.
     
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  12. SCAnteater

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    I'm a statistician. I hate it when data is misused.
     
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    The question for Bohn is whether he was lied to about the recruiting, or whether he lied to us about the recruiting, because it was one or the other. He should have to answer that question.
     
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  14. 1980trojan

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    Because as I stated in another post, Clay Helton is getting paid millions of dollars to continue to not do anything in regards to building a good, let alone a great football program. As long as your bosses keep paying you and extending your employment, why would he change? There has to be a fundamental change in the attitudes of his bosses to make a move.

    The reality is despite the call for change by the fans and alumni, the USC administration think Clay Helton is doing a good job. So they keep him as coach. The behavior of the administration sends a message to Clay Helton that what he's doing is at the very least is acceptable and fine by them so they condone and reward him for his work as USC head coach.

    What really bothers me is the fact that they keep throwing out the word "INTEGRITY". Where is their integrity when Folt, Bohn and Helton feed lies to us about any number of issues regarding the football program. It's insulting because they somehow think we believe the lies coming out of their mouths. I guess I'll have to wait until February for the identification of the "silent commitment" players.

    Again, let's be honest, If your boss kept paying you millions to do a half-ass job, would you walk away from those paychecks? I think not. Thanks Dr. Folt and AD Bohn.

    Glad you are back Chris. I enjoy reading your takes on what is going on with the program.

    Fight On!
     
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  15. racea911

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    Excellent. As someone mentioned Lane Kiffin earlier in this thread, why don't you sharpen your pencil and compare Helton's small class recruiting ranking to Lane Kiffins sanction crippled small classes he recruited? The difference between the two is infuriating.
     
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  16. DJ4SC

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    Classic.
     
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  17. SCAnteater

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    Yeah, I think I pointed that out in another post. We're midpack in the pac 12 based on average rating, and we should never be there. Nationally we're mucking around with the likes of Arkansas, ole miss, wva and Virginia. It's not good. But it's just plain wrong to say east Carolina and north Texas outrecruited us.
     
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    As one poster said, your article is devastating in its assessment. Very very funny because its so sad and so true
     

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