Jude Wolfe Commits to USC!

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  2. matthewdavn

    matthewdavn New Member


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    Jude*

    I like our chances here.
     
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    Had my heart set on Ethan Rae, but would gladly take Wolfe.

    Now for the hard part, having the coaches actually use the TE and feature it.
     
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    We will take 2 TE this year and if Ethan is healthy, he is in.
     
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    Fantastic news- this is a great player and all-around TE
     
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    SoCalN8tiv Junior Member


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    Damn it! By golly, this is the year Varg man! So help me Josh Falo!

    ; )
     
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    I guess I need a better explanation of “featuring”, and why you think we should do that with TEs, as opposed to “featuring” our RBs or WRs? TEs had around 40 receptions each of the last 2 years, so while not “featuring” our TEs we do use them fairly efficiently in certain situations. I don’t know that I want our TEs getting 80 receptions, which would mean a full 1/3 of our passing plays would be to TEs...
     
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    Nice....a big blocking TE .......assuming we want to run.......which we do. See him at 260 in a few years?
     
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    Ah man...feel fairly confident in my claims, as they're developed throughout the season as I take note of certain tendencies and think about why certain things aren't working.

    But to prove it to you, takes a lot of time and digging through statistics, as well as other teams' stats for comparison. You've been a fair poster, so I'll take the time to engage and attempt to form a persuasive argument. Here goes...

    For '17, SC had the below stats:

    • 309 receptions
    • 34 TE receptions
    • 5 TD's
    • 11% rec to TE
    • TE's avg 14 yds per rec
    So 80 receptions would be exactly a quarter of receptions, not a third.

    http://usctrojans.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2017

    SC TE's had 34 receptions, not 40. That would put it at exactly 11% of the receptions to TE's. This 11% is a far cry from "1/3", not even in the ballpark.

    By comparison, some teams that "feature" their TE and have historically, had the below stats:

    Stanford '17
    • 193 total rec
    • 56 TE rec
    • 12 TE TD's
    • 60% of passes to TE's
    • TE's avg 13 yds per rec

    Michigan '16:
    • 228 total rec
    • 59 rec to TE
    • 6 TD's
    • 26% pass to TE
    • TE's avg 11 yds per rec

    Pedo St. '17
    • 269 total receptions
    • 56 rec to TE
    • 11 TD's
    • 21% passes to TE
    • TE's avg 9.7 yds per rec
    Choklohoma '17

    • 303 total receptions
    • 72 rec to TE
    • 11 TD's to TE
    • 24% passes to TE
    • TE's avg 16 yds per rec

    But more importantly, it's not just about the overall stats, it's about the scheme & strategy. The old adage is a TE is a QB's "Best Friend", and that's due to TE's getting QB's out of pinches when the offense isn't humming, as well as being a consistent option when things break down on passing plays and going through progressions.

    The TE position is also important in a scheme where you want to keep Safeties honest and make them defend the middle (and not cheat on the run game or jump shallow routes). If you recall, this was exactly our problem vs. both Texas and tOSU. Their Safeties cheated up to the line and did not respect the deep middle or the TE's in general. In these games, our TE's had the below stats:

    vs. Texas
    2 rec
    21 yds
    0 TD's
    1 rec in 1st half, 1 rec in 2nd half

    vs. tOSU

    3 rec
    27 yds
    0 TD
    2 passes to D. Imator for 25 yds, 1 pass to Petite for 2 yds

    vs. WSU

    0 rec
    0 yds
    0 TD

    vs. ND

    0 rec
    0 yds
    0 TD

    Now compare those stats to TE output in more garbage-type games:

    vs. Cal

    5 rec
    1 TD
    53 yds

    vs. Beavs

    4 rec
    1 TD
    74 yds

    Our best TE game was vs. Utah:

    5 rec
    2 TD's
    99 yds


    So again, it's not just about the stats, it's about scheme and "how/when" to use the TE. Our offense has historically been a more pro-style offense that features the QB and a balanced offense.

    In Sam and Tee's defense, I do recall that Petite dropped several passes and Daniel wasn't all that healthy last season.
     
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    Also, the TE Pop-Pass keeps the LB's honest and makes them think twice about blitzing or cheating up (since the pop-pass is relying on the LB's vacating the shallow middle).

    The bootleg that Leinert ran w/ perfection keeps that MLB honest and covering the TE on the drag route. Then again, don't think you can run a bootleg out of the shotgun.

    We struggled last season in the red zone. We got tons of yardage throughout the game, but had trouble punching the ball in inside the 20. Stanford has a good system of using their 6'6"+ TE's in mismatches for this purpose. I'd like to see us get there. Our running game isn't dominant yet, the opposing secondary is putting extra players on the WR's. Our TE's don't command extra attention.
     
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    Wow, impressive post. Exactly, out of a pure shotgun there is no deception for play action or bootleg making a misdirection play possible because the ball is exposed front and center and simple for the LBs and safeties to track; however, from the shallower true pistol or with Rt & Lt RB alignment in the pistol to either side of the QB easily allows for play action, rollouts, and bootlegs. From reports I got around to reading, there was much more QB-ing from under center this Spring so maybe we'll see more bootlegs and rollouts. Again, great post Vargas ; )
     
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    Think Falo gets reps down the middle based on spring camp
     
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    Bump. Happening tomorrow.

    Fight On!
     
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    Yeah, but to be honest, we do that every spring. GP is always reporting nice throws up the seams in practice....and deep, too. Just seems to disappear come game time.
     
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    I think Drevno may have a say on how the TE's will be utilized.
     
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    Would be a nice commit to continue the wave of recruiting success we’re having this summer.
     
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    Think it’s more timing of when you throw to the te, than the number of targets, play action deep middle pass.
    The te is the qb’s best friend is because they often bail out the qb when they are scrambling or when a play breaks down off a blitz, missed assignments, etc not because they are the primary receiver.
    Schools that most cite as examples for featuring the te do not have the quality of our wr, if standord, michigan, etc had juju, woods, lee, going back to swann, etc I don’t see them throwing to the te over our wr corp.
     
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    In the passing game?
     
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