Jimmy Lake's strategy vs SC

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  1. Jimmy Lake's strategy vs SC
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    motovich Junior Member

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    Lake said he rolled his safeties over to Pittman and Vaughns whenever they were split outside. Essentially, whenever they went out wide they were double-covered, which basically took both out of the game. We are very likely to see future opponents copy Lake's strategy. Hope we come up with an adjustment to that strategy in the future...
     
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    The answer would seem to be to have more than a 50/50 run/pass split when you’re running for 6.4 yards per carry.
     
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    And didn’t even pretend to hide it. They could only go that obvious against Fink. If he plays everyone will do that but it will be not as tilted that way w Slovis. Still the right plan in big spots against USC throwing the ball right now.

    SC will figure out how to get some other things working in the passing game w any consistency at QB. But it’s defintitly the plan right now to defend those outside guys.
     
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    Against 5 and 6 man boxes to add insult to injury. How is that not an automatic run audible EVERY TIME??
     
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    This is basic shit! Honestly, I only coached youth and I know this.

    1. You can't throw against 6-7 defenders dropping back, especially not with your 3rd string QB
    2. You can't telegraph passes to the WR's the defense is keying on

    We still don't throw to the TE's much, we're not throwing to a wheel route, we're not using the RB screen passes, we have no Fly Sweep, we're not using Stepp in obvious short-yardage, how about creative plays like a shovel?

    Harrel was supposed to fix all of this...what is it with SC offenses? It's the same ole crap, no matter the coach!
     
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    TE on a seam route off play action?
     
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    What's a TE?
     
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    It's a beautiful thing when you see an offense that can pick-apart a defense. To see the two split Safeties out wide, have the play-action to suck the LB's in, then drop that ball into the TE in the middle.

    You hit that enough times, then the Safeties cheat in, then you throw out wide...and watch them get frustrated!

    Basic chess-match stuff, using their aggresiveness against them. They think they're going to take away your strength, so you pick them apart somewhere else.

    That's how it's supposed to be. We're far from there!
     
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    I still prefer Pittman's chances in a jump ball situation while double or triple teamed. Let him be a beast, instead of relying on Drake London to lose the game for us again.
     
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    They double wideouts and there are all kinds of countermeasures, as some have noted.

    Not sure what Helton/Harrell see, but my peabrain says we are then playing 9-on-7. Hey Urban, what say you....anything there? LOL
     
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    Essentially he took away the one and only play Fink was getting lucky on by throwing up prayers to his WR's the week prior. Preparation and game planning by a coach. What a concept. Adjustments isn't something we've seen from Helton and now the question is as DC's start to take plays away from Harrell will he be able to make the proper adjustments?
     
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    You could literally run-off Pittman/ASB out wide and take the Safeties out. You play-action to Stepp that guarantees the LB's stay in the box...how much space would be in the middle from that?

    What about a "Bunch" or Trips route, so the Safeties can't just stand back there and wait for the pass?

    If the Safeties are playing 20 yards back, and backpedalling with Pittman/ASB, what range do you think would be open (10-20 yards)? So a deep "In", TE Seem, Flanker Arrow route, deep Out?

    Basic stuff really.
     
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    So let me get this straight, you're implying London lost the game for us? Really??
     
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    Completely agree. Have always been a fan of bunching and stacking WR's especially off of play action. D has to pre-snap rotate to strong side, play action holds the LBs and back side slant is usually an easy pitch and catch.
     
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    I think they have one on display at the Natural History Museum. Have long been extinct in Exposition Park/Coliseum area. :)
     
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    Right next to the FB...
     
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    They should have atleast had Stepp on the field during the pass play to London. Everyone including us USC fans would have expected a run. Going empty backfield limited us to a pass play or Fink trying to run it in himself.
     
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    Run the ball till they have to adjust
     
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    We have not seen enough of that from Harrell. This is something we should have exploited especially with them featuring multiple freshmen in the secondary.
    We seem to be missing that speed element on offense. Apparently Velus and Dominic can't be trusted on offense. And the coaching staff seems set on keeping Christon's redshirt.
    Overall I think Harrell did ok considering it was a well-coached defense on the road with a 3rd string QB. We gashed them on the ground with a suspect OL. Interceptions are what doomed the offense.
     
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    And yet we chose to throw right into that coverage, instead of taking what they gave us.....IE out routes and the run game, specially with Markees Stepp.
     
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