IMHO Sunday: The Air Raid=Championships?

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    I still think Helton believes football is 7on7. Yes, we just got another stud WR through the portal, and by all means he looks like a great find, but the real priority should be on need. Specifically the OL, and someone who can protect Slovis’s blindside. Having an abundance of stud receivers is useless if we cannot protect the QB. And we know from past history Slovis has taken his share of beatings.
    As for Bohn it looks like he is setting himself for a Win-Win proposition. Harrell now has the final piece by his own choosing, with the hire of Clay 2. If it works then Bohn is credited by having the foresight to extend Harrell. If it doesn’t work, he can make the change when Helton is finally let go, and when he finds his new head coach, he will politely tell Harrell that the new coach wants to bring in his own staff and go in a different direction. Either way Bohn wins, unfortunately we just have to cringe through another season of Helton ball, and hold on to see if we can pull out another 4th quarter comeback! Bohn is starting to look like a supreme strategist!
    Fight On!
     
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    Thanks! As usual Greg, I appreciate and enjoy your reads....even though we may not always agree. And that would be boring anyway!

    First off, our inability to win anything has nothing to do with us running Air Raid. Those issues started long before Graham Harrell came around. At the risk of getting off point, our issues lie elsewhere.

    There’s a lot in the peanut gallery around here that love to throw this offense under the bus in a weak sauce attempt to shift blame. The fact of the matter is, Air Raid principles are used extensively at all levels. Frosh team in HS, to the Super Bowl.
    For example...
    Classic 2 WRs to the left and two the right, running verticals? Or Ace formation...Air Raid
    Trips left with slot (H) WR running a wheel, middle (Z) running a post, and outside (X) running a stick right.....Air Raid.
    1 x 2 with two RBs, with X and Y running crossing routes....otherwise known as mesh plays.....yup, Air Raid. Devonte Smith scored half his TDs on crossing routes.

    Watch Alabama, Clemson and of course, Oklahoma. All utilize Air Raid principles in their offense. They also do something that SC has no clue about. And that’s a commitment to the run game.
    Wait? Whuuuh? You can run the ball in an Air Raid offense?
    Oklahoma does this better than anyone....no passing team runs the ball as well as Oklahoma in the past 20 years. Of course, that starts with a very sound OL. The Sooners ability to never miss a beat with plugging in skilled players all starts upfront. Arguably OL U, IMO.

    So, yea, Air Raid can win championships...it just takes commitment to other facets of the game to do so.
     
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    Yes...Air Raid can win championships. As long as:
    -You can still run the ball
    -You play defense
    -You don't lead the conf or nation in penalties
    -You recruit and develop players
     
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    Great comparison between Jaguar Jon and McCaffery, in regards to running style.
     
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    Don't you think you could say the same thing about any offensive scheme that had those qualities?
     
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    In order to compete with the elite teams USC must utterly physically dominate the PAC. The air raid can never achieve that. The air raid is designed to make us competitive in the conference. Vomit.
     
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    The Air Raid is 100% dependent on a healthy Slovis and a decisive edge on the WR vs DB matchups. When you play a team with good CB's and a stout DL, those advantages evaporate.

    Since USC does not run effectively or play-action pass much, they can be stopped with one standout D-lineman (see Oregon) let alone playing elite defenses in the CFB playoffs.

    USC will never be in the CFB playoffs with the Air Raid as they currently run it and with all the OL problems.
     
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    Greg, you wrote: "When USC head coach Clay Helton junked his own personal philosophy of offense after the 2018 season for the Air Raid, he eventually selected Graham Harrell – an Air Raid disciple of current Mississippi St coach Mike Leach – as his new offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach with the blessing of USC athletic director Mike Bohn."

    Wasn't Harrell added to the USC staff under Lynn Swann? Kedon and Harrell were already rolling in 2019 prior to Bohn being named AD.
     
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    Great post. I debate this often. When Graham Harrell was hired, I wish that he had come in and adapted/evolved with the superior talent...like a Lincoln Riley. Harrell is just too stubborn to do so. Has Harrell grown as a coach?
     
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    "Those closest to him the last decade of his life said that he took great pride in the history of USC football and being a part of it, but Jon never had a problem expressing opinions, especially when it came to the current state of play regarding today’s Trojans football program. Jon had been very disappointed with USC football and hoped something could be done. A caring Trojan till the very end. "

    So well said.

    So many old Trojans passing without seeing even a hint at a return to the glory that was USC football. I hate Helton for this.
     
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    Air Raid=Championships? – Part 13: you pass to score but you run to win
     
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    HI Jacksonsf. The point I was "trying" to make is that Mike Bohn is supporting Clay Helton and the Air Raid for the obvious reason. They are the current occupants of the offense regardless of his own personal opinion. In other words, he will support it publicly until he doesn't. The bottom line is whether the Trojans can win championships by just passing the ball, having a token and un-physical running game, and unbalanced offensive recruiting (great skill players and overall 3-star recruiting of linemen). You might ask yourself - not if but when - Graham Harrell departs USC, will Mike Bohn want to see the Air Raid continue in its present form? GK
     
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    Is it your opinion, Harrell has full autonomy of the offense?
     
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    I think Harrell is doing the best he can with what he’s got.
    He’s being paid to move the football down field, and when you have a HC, AD, Admin that will not give you all the tools to help you succeed....you’re left on you’re own. So I think GH does what GH knows, and that’s throw the ball. It’s not his fault his HC/Staff refuse to develop the OL and allow him to run the ball.
     
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    But it is his fault that he refuses to disguise his 6 plays with formation, motion and misdirection. It has been said that he could put the backs in a position to take the ball with a head of steam rather than from a standing start.

    So there are things he could do if he wanted!
     
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    100%! It seems like the defenses have figured us out! Give our offense a fighting chance! Confuse and wear out the defense. Make it hard for them to disguise their coverage! It will also help our running game by keeping the defense on its heels. Maybe a little confusion will result in wide open receivers every once in a while?
     
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    Call it the Air Raid, I call it having an unbalanced offense, where your offense is just one dimensional. It is a proven fact that no team has won a championship with an unbalanced offense. Pete Carroll sensed that and let go his OC Schotenheimer 2 weeks ago because he felt that his offense was trending too much towards the passing game. CPC should know as he has won championships at both levels.
    So let’s look at the reality of our program. We have a head coach who is supposed to have an offensive background. Rewind 3 years ago, when he was mesmerized by Shaw and his ground and pound offense. In his presser he said that is who we want to be. Well one thing he neglected was Oline recruiting and retaining an incompetent assistant in Neil Callaway. Tee failed, as well as his gumbo offense. That led to the hiring of Kingsbury. That was purely an accident as both Helton and Kingsbury both had the same agent and Kingsbury was just let go. Ok now we are going to transition to the Air Raid offense. Then Kingsbury left and the back up was Harrell another Air Raid disciple referred by Kingsbury.
    So now enter Bohn, who inherits this mess. He basically is told you are dealt a hand and you cannot discard Helton for the next 2 years. So to temporarily stabilize the program, he extends Harrell to match Helton’s contract. He also brings in Orlando and does the same with his contract. Orlando was also a no brainer because he was just fired by Herman.
    The defense improved, but the offense became questionable. Opposing DC’s with the exception of WSU said all we have to do is defend the pass and we have a 50/50 chance of a win. 3 of our 5 games came down to the 4th quarter, and these were teams with losing records. We still struggled in the red zone and even announcers were ridiculing the play calling for not going under center in short yardage in the red zone. Hence Harrell’s or Helton’s comment, “That is not who we are.”
    So Helton continues on, focusing on WR’s versus needs. Bohn is strategizing how to cover his ass, and Harrell now has to produce after picking up his new Oline coach in Clay 2. Either way Bohn will come out of this favorably as he has hedged his bet. It is sad for the rest of us who will have to deal with a team with stud kids, but an underachieving head coach!
    Fight On!
     
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    The next time an Air Raid offense wins anything of significance will be the first time an Air Raid offense wins anything of significance.
     
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    Pete said he would make Coli the place to be in LA on Saturday & he did. Clay has fans not resigning
     
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