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  1. denali15

    denali15 Points Member


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    A lefty commentator posted, in part:

    Press figures have derided the idea that Steele was crucial to the FISA application, with some insisting it was only a “small part” of the application. Horowitz is clear: 'We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team’s receipt of Steele’s election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI’s and Department’s decision to seek the FISA order. '

    Is Gary arguing that isn't in the Report? (sorry for the italics--not sure how to turn it off).

    Sorry Gary--you're just wrong. And no, unlike Steele's reporting, there is no evidence that prostitutes peed on Trump in a Moscow hotel room.
     
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  2. TheRealAirbns

    TheRealAirbns Junior Member


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    Sure, and they determined the evidence wasn't there to support pursuing that warrant, right? End of story. No? Why not? Aren't you curious?

    If the evidence wasn't there for a warrant, what was the impetus for focusing on Page in the first place? That he went to an oil and gas conference in Russia? Seriously? Aren't you at all curious? Does that mean that anyone talking to a Russian merits being spied on by our spooks?

    What ought to interest you is why, five months after the conclusion of a Justice Department case in which Carter Page was described as an "UCE," an undercover employee, the same people employing him were seeking a FISA warrant against him. And not just the usual 702 warrant, either, but a Title 1 warrant, which doesn't just say that they wanted to look into things that looked suspicious, but that Page was already known as an agent of a foreign government engaged in criminal activity.

    This report that you're bragging about having read also says that Page was a CIA asset. How is one an employee of the US Justice Department *and* an undercover agent for a foreign government engaged in criminal activity, essentially at the same time? And if he really was known as a foreign agent, why wouldn't the FBI follow SOP and warn Trump?

    Can you describe some of these "alternative facts" you're claiming the Q folks are relying on? Go ahead and list a few. Because the Horowitz report has confirmed virtually *everything* the Q folks have been talking about over the years concerning the FBI/CIA handling of Trump.

    Geez. You're really not having one of your good days.
     
  3. aimeedee

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    What is it with you MAGA types and your stretch jean fetishes?
     
  4. old scotty

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    She need not worry, nobody here would care to put a hand in hers
     
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  5. GaryB

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    I'm not sure where you are getting your information. I went back through the report. Here is the report's explanation:

    on or about August 17, 2016, the Crossfire Hurricane team received information from another U.S. government agency advising the team that Carter Page had been approved as an operational contact for the other agency from 2008 to 2013 and detailing information that Page had provided to the other agency regarding Page's past contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers.

    Among the questions regarding Carter Page, on September 29, the OI Attorney asked the Crossfire Hurricane team, "do we know if there is any truth to Page's claim that he has provided information to [another U.S. government agency]-was he considered a source/asset/whatever?" According to the OI Attorney, it would have been a significant fact to disclose to 01 if Page had interactions with the other U.S. government agency that overlapped in time with his interactions with known Russian intelligence officers described in the FISA applications because it would raise the issue of whether Page interacted with the Russian intelligence officers at the behest of the other U.S. government agency or with the intent to assist the U.S. government. In response to the 01 Attorney's question, Case Agent 1 advised him that Page did meet with the other U.S. government agency, but that the interactions took place while Page was in Moscow (which was between 2004 and 2007) and were "outside scope."

    This is the section that Horowitz wrote was inaccurate. Subsequent information proved Page had contact with the FBI in July 2011 (Page 159 of the report).

    There is no reference to Page being an undercover employee six months before the warrant. However, there is a reference to undercover employees being in contact with Page six months before the warrant was issued.

    No, the report indicates that while Page was living in Russia (2003-2007) he was contacted by the CIA about people he was in contact with that were being investigated.

    Yes, the fact that the FBI did not spy on the Trump campaign.
     
  6. DJ4SC

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    Liar.
    Soon you’ll be trying to claim that Comey, Brennan, and obutthead weren’t indicted either, Clown.
     
  7. TheRealAirbns

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    Sure. Where do you supposed all this information about the Trump campaign came from, *before* the Mueller team came into being? Oh, that's right, it was all just a result of incidental contact with people already under surveillance.

    We seem to have a difference of opinion over what the words "spy on," mean.

    Curious that the same collection of information resulting from incidental contact didn't materialize over all the activities of the Clinton campaign or the DNC, isn't it? There's the rub in all this nonsense, because we certainly know that that kind of incidental contact was taking place.
     
  8. KeenObserver

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    Ah, just ignore her
     
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