Honesty Check Time For Helton Haters conquest4ever81 Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 1,983 Likes Received: 603 Dec 28, 2019 #1 First of all as much as it hurts we all need to get one thing straight so repeat after me. URBAN MEYER WAS NEVER REALISTICALLY IN PLAY. Until that is clearly understood you will never be able to move forward from that unicorn fantasy that never existed. I even said I was open to his acquisition if it was possible. Glad we got that settled. Now comes the honesty check. Let's assume after that negative Holiday Bowl outcome Helton is fired. There are actually idiots out there who claim Helton is worse than Paul Hackett. My advice to you is research that era and do your own homework. I won't do it for you. Moving forward if Clay is canned then it will be a roll of the dice. Hair on fire Helton detractors simply blurt out than anyone would be better. But wait. Isn't the knock against CCH that we don't seem to be on the path to playoffs and national titles? Okay. Let's say Helton is fired and replaced. Will a 7-5 or 8-4 record with possible losses to rivals be acceptable to you? Let's assume you answer in the affirmative. What if after another season or two USC doesn't even make the Rose Bowl? How patient will you be? Will the tarmacers be up and ready with their usual nonsense? Will the vicious cycle resume? Keep in mind we will be stuck with Helton's replacement for at least 3 years? God forbid if we finish under .500 that first season, this board will probably explode like an erupting volcano. Quite a bit to ponder isn't it? Just4sc and Redskins Rick like this.