Free Agency Coming

Discussion in 'GarryP's Trojan Huddle' started by usc1011, Feb 18, 2020.

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  2. FIGHTON!

    FIGHTON! Junior Member


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    Maybe we can get a couple players from Whoregon.
    Fight on! Beat the Tide! Fight on!✌
     
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    This goes right with the everyone wins a trophy mentality. If you don't win the starting spot, transfer! Let's just be honest here, why don't we. The NCAA should just create a farm system for the NFL and release the colleges...
     
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    Sorry, but that's a dumb take. The NFL should have a farm system for aspiring pros, much like baseball, hockey, soccer, and many other sports. It should be funded by the NFL.

    As far as kids wanting to move around for the chance to showcase their talent and (hopefully) get noticed by the NFL, or simply to get the chance to, you know, actually PLAY FOOTBALL on Saturday instead of riding pine for four years, why would you be against that?
     
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    How is it dumb, we are basically saying the same thing.

    Let's create grit for our students why dont we instead of teaching them to quit and move on. Teach them that they need to work for what they want. When they get to the NFL, they most likely won't be able to do the one and done deal very often. do we really want to promote that. And look at basketball with the one and dones. what a joke that is. Sorry if I believe that the colleges should get something for giving these kids full ride scholoraships.
     
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    I always said the best answer is 4 game sit out and no further restrictions. It leaves some skin in the game.
     
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    What about the millions of dollars spent each year on recruiting costs borne by the schools? Just blown out the window by talent-deficient, ill-equipped, weak-minded, homesick, or lovesick kids picking up and leaving whenever they feel like it? What about learning to make responsible, adult decisions that have consequences?

    And as silly as it may sound, isn’t there an element of learning/scholastic achievement that’s supposed to happen in college? How do you do that when you’re constantly searching for playing time at new schools? What percentage of kids actually make a living playing pro football? Nothing like more “dumb jocks” never learning anything and hitting the streets in search of Bernie handouts.....

    Personally, I like the 1-year transfer sit out for all....go to class, make normal friends, experience college, think about life’s decisions....unless you have graduated and have your degree.
     
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    If the NCAA is truly about being an institution of "higher learning" as it professes to be, then there should be academic restrictions that ensure transfers are compatible with an academic goal (semester vs. qtr, same/similar major, wait till semester end, etc.). Otherwise, this would be a clear sign that CFB is nothing more than a $ generating business operation...in which case, why make the kids even attend class?

    But as far as "free agency", rosters will have to be managed to lose players and gain. Definitely will keep coaches honest. No more snowballing recruits until you sign them, then change the terms.
     
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    Oh my. WHY do you think schools spend huge sums of money to lure kids to come play for them? Its all about $$$$$$$$. These kids are mercenaries, let's just be Frank and Ernest about it. Spending large sums of money to hopefully lure the next Heisman Trophy winner to your school is all about winning football games and that translates into MONEY with a capital M.

    The fact that many of these kids don't pan out to be stars, and some wash out altogether, is just considered the cost of doing business. How many people hired by a company each year become a high-performing star? Not many, but firms still spend money recruiting talent every year in hopes of landing the best candidates they can get.

    If the kids are allowed to leave school and transfer elsewhere, there might be some clause in their scholarship contracts where they have to repay the school or something. That would at least give them some skin in picking the right school and situation for them out of high school.

    Besides, it is my understanding that athletic scholarships are not awarded as a four-year guarantee of a free education. From what I know, they're a year-to-year deal where the school can decide to yank a scholarship from a player if he isn't fulfilling his end of the bargain. So a kid deciding to leave a school and transfer elsewhere doesn't mean the school is on the hook for a couple extra years of paying for a kid who skipped out on them.

    The fact that such a low percentage of those young men playing football make it to the NFL shouldn't mean that schools get to place MORE restrictions on chasing their dream. If a kid believes they have a better shot at getting to the NFL by transferring to say, UTEP and starting for a year, instead of playing special teams and 3rd string linebacker at a big-name school, why shouldn't he be allowed to do that?

    While I think the ideal of the "scholar-athlete" is admirable, the only sports where this is true in the slightest are sports that nobody gives a shit about, and which don't generate any significant income for the schools. The very fact that schools offer a scholarship to play sports for them is itself a payment of sorts. In sports where stakes are high and having a successful program mean huge sums of money and huge prestige for the school, the "scholar-athlete" ideal is a laughable farce. What percentage of Division I scholarship football players would be admitted to their schools if they applied as a regular student?
     
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    Does this apply to coaches?
     
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    It would be hilarious if it did. Don't many industries have non-compete clauses in the contracts for high-ranking executives?
     
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    Oh, absolutely. But not in sports.

    LOL, can you imagine that policy in the NFL?
     
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    Excellent points/counter points by both you guys. Reading your arguments makes it abundantly clear the NCAA has a long way to go finding the right balance on this issue. But their problem is they've done an awkward dance between making millions of dollars while hiding behind the corny 1940's facade of "student-athletes" merely having fun on a Saturday afternoon. The pressure is mounting to blow that apart and expose CFB for what it's become: a booming capitalistic enterprise. Their monopoly is being challenged.
     
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    If a student on an academic scholarship can transfer at anytime to another school why can't athletes. There should be no restrictions on any athlete that isn't placed on any other student.

    The NCAA is there to keep the money flowing. It's never cared about well being of athletes.
     
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    The problem this starts is when the low money producing sports now want their piece. Transfers, may not be such an issue, BUT, the pay to play most certainly will be. The big money is football and BB.

    Example, Sam Darnold was considered a Heisman favorite entering his last year. Under the proposed scenario, Sam can earn $1 million because of who he is while at SC. Now, in today's climate, 3rd string punter is upset because it's not fair, Sam and himself arrived in the same yr on the same scholarship. What about Nancy on the softball team? She is the star of SC's team, but no one is offering her any money to be a spokesperson for Fred's Mercedes dealership. So now she is upset and is complaining.

    I'm all for Sam making what he can, BUT, others will not be and football literally carries and pays for many other sports at the college level. We shall see, but could quite possibly be the beginning of the end of college sports as it has been.
     
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    Recall Pat asking for scholie relief since a short handed team exposed our players to more injuries. Ncaa response was crickets
     

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