ESPN Early 2021 Rankings SGVFlip Points Member Joined: Nov 13, 2017 Messages: 1,419 Likes Received: 1,066 Jan 12, 2021 #1 has USC at #8, IIRC.... Higher than ND, Oregon, UDub.... They have USC listed with 8 returning each on Offense and Defense... What are they seeing that most here are not seeing? I mean lots of us here thinks were at most a 7-8 win team...
has USC at #8, IIRC.... Higher than ND, Oregon, UDub.... They have USC listed with 8 returning each on Offense and Defense... What are they seeing that most here are not seeing? I mean lots of us here thinks were at most a 7-8 win team...
AZTrojan38 Points Member Joined: Jan 7, 2018 Messages: 375 Likes Received: 732 Jan 12, 2021 #2 Its just to get people talking/debating. USC has as much of a chance to finish in the top 8 next season as Oregon St, UCLA or Washington St. In other words......NO CHANCE! gubo&palanka likes this.
Its just to get people talking/debating. USC has as much of a chance to finish in the top 8 next season as Oregon St, UCLA or Washington St. In other words......NO CHANCE!
conquest4ever81 Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 2,136 Likes Received: 644 Jan 12, 2021 #3 Appears confidence in Helton is high by those in the know. Dry your tears haters.
conquest4ever81 Points Member Joined: Sep 2, 2017 Messages: 2,136 Likes Received: 644 Jan 12, 2021 #6 Helton haters can't handle it.
GoSC27! Points Member Joined: Sep 30, 2017 Messages: 3,764 Likes Received: 3,704 Jan 12, 2021 #7 The rankings are based upon projected returning starters and incoming recruits. That creates certain expectations. With the Covid shortened season and key kids sitting out, we were eventually projected to win out the PAC12 conference. Larry Scott even went so far as to pitch our 5-0 record to the CFP committee for consideration even if the majority of those victories were teams that had losing records. Well we all know how the season ended. Helton’s program has serious flaws like an unbalanced offense, highly penalized undisciplined team, and poor game management, ...., and until those get fixed, depth and national rankings pertaining to class recruits will only continue to setup high expectations/projections that will struggle to be met! Fight On! gubo&palanka and SouthbayTrojan91 like this.
The rankings are based upon projected returning starters and incoming recruits. That creates certain expectations. With the Covid shortened season and key kids sitting out, we were eventually projected to win out the PAC12 conference. Larry Scott even went so far as to pitch our 5-0 record to the CFP committee for consideration even if the majority of those victories were teams that had losing records. Well we all know how the season ended. Helton’s program has serious flaws like an unbalanced offense, highly penalized undisciplined team, and poor game management, ...., and until those get fixed, depth and national rankings pertaining to class recruits will only continue to setup high expectations/projections that will struggle to be met! Fight On!
Gold Trojan Points Member Joined: Aug 27, 2017 Messages: 1,842 Likes Received: 1,755 Jan 12, 2021 #8 Ohhhhh!!! Maybe this year we can beat at least 1 team with a .500 record or better!!!! gubo&palanka likes this.
Troy70 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 9,443 Likes Received: 9,676 Jan 12, 2021 #9 Folt doesn’t care about football just PAC recycling champs at Coli. Clay is safe this season. gubo&palanka likes this.
RDTK Points Member Joined: Nov 19, 2017 Messages: 602 Likes Received: 335 Jan 13, 2021 #10 Helton with his "20 year plan" to success
zitorocks Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 2,147 Likes Received: 2,481 Jan 13, 2021 #11 What a genius. Most HC's have a 3-5 year plan and get fired in 4. Guess if yours is a 20 year plan, you get more time.
What a genius. Most HC's have a 3-5 year plan and get fired in 4. Guess if yours is a 20 year plan, you get more time.
Steve From Florida Points Member Joined: Dec 11, 2018 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 46 Jan 13, 2021 #12 Excluding this year as it was not a complete year with multiple game cancellations, we have been trending down on wins YoY since Helton has taken the helm. The slope is negative, and I believe the R^2 is significant. The bowl record is abysmal (1-3), and outside of, I believe two (I may be wrong) recruiting classes, they are terrible. This is a typical bad stock to buy. The stock looks attractive, but the underlying fundamentals are negative.
Excluding this year as it was not a complete year with multiple game cancellations, we have been trending down on wins YoY since Helton has taken the helm. The slope is negative, and I believe the R^2 is significant. The bowl record is abysmal (1-3), and outside of, I believe two (I may be wrong) recruiting classes, they are terrible. This is a typical bad stock to buy. The stock looks attractive, but the underlying fundamentals are negative.
