Elephant in the room: 2021 Gold Trojan Points Member Joined: Aug 27, 2017 Messages: 1,742 Likes Received: 1,565 Dec 28, 2019 #1 Next year will be the final year for a lot of our talent on the OL/DL/LB/secondary. We haven’t even come close to reloading. I’m thinking that 2021 will really expose how poorly our staff has done over the last 2 recruiting cycles. Kaptain Karl and RobertSmithLA like this.
Next year will be the final year for a lot of our talent on the OL/DL/LB/secondary. We haven’t even come close to reloading. I’m thinking that 2021 will really expose how poorly our staff has done over the last 2 recruiting cycles.
qqqqqqqman Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 3,501 Likes Received: 4,490 Dec 28, 2019 #2 Well, we DID just sign SIX OLinemen in this class that average about 6’5, 300 lbs. Not projecting their return on investment, as clearly recruiting is weak, but it is something.
Well, we DID just sign SIX OLinemen in this class that average about 6’5, 300 lbs. Not projecting their return on investment, as clearly recruiting is weak, but it is something.
Rob384 Points Member Joined: Oct 29, 2018 Messages: 167 Likes Received: 307 Dec 28, 2019 #3 Spring Practice in a few months will be interesting. No J.T., probably no Slovis, can’t see Fink sticking around; no QB’s coming in so..... maybe Graham and Clay will run the offense..
Spring Practice in a few months will be interesting. No J.T., probably no Slovis, can’t see Fink sticking around; no QB’s coming in so..... maybe Graham and Clay will run the offense..
Gold Trojan Points Member Joined: Aug 27, 2017 Messages: 1,742 Likes Received: 1,565 Dec 28, 2019 #4 I think the staff looked up and realized just how thin we are. 70% of our lines will be exiting after next year. Total knee jerk reaction. Kaptain Karl and Troy70 like this.
I think the staff looked up and realized just how thin we are. 70% of our lines will be exiting after next year. Total knee jerk reaction.
ErikMcKinney Administrator Staff Member Joined: Apr 17, 2018 Messages: 5,812 Likes Received: 14,507 Dec 28, 2019 #5 That’s my issue with the numbers on the line in this class. Feels like the DBs in the last class. You’re guaranteed that all six linemen aren’t going to work out (that’s just the reality of recruiting for every class), so now do you under recruit that position the next year because you just signed six? Do the coaches feel comfortable with DBs after signing so many last year, so they don’t sign any this year, and when some of those DBs don’t work out or transfer, you’re back to scrambling there again? Just so many questions with how recruiting is going and the whole process right now. But still time to get things right before February and through the portal. We’ll see how it goes.
That’s my issue with the numbers on the line in this class. Feels like the DBs in the last class. You’re guaranteed that all six linemen aren’t going to work out (that’s just the reality of recruiting for every class), so now do you under recruit that position the next year because you just signed six? Do the coaches feel comfortable with DBs after signing so many last year, so they don’t sign any this year, and when some of those DBs don’t work out or transfer, you’re back to scrambling there again? Just so many questions with how recruiting is going and the whole process right now. But still time to get things right before February and through the portal. We’ll see how it goes.
Gold Trojan Points Member Joined: Aug 27, 2017 Messages: 1,742 Likes Received: 1,565 Dec 28, 2019 #6 Another issue of signing lower rated classes, is that guys stick around. Instead of signing 20 - 25 guys each year, you sign only 11. Lower rated 3 star athletes are more prone to stay until they’re 5th year seniors, even though they may never see the field. yah20002 likes this.
Another issue of signing lower rated classes, is that guys stick around. Instead of signing 20 - 25 guys each year, you sign only 11. Lower rated 3 star athletes are more prone to stay until they’re 5th year seniors, even though they may never see the field.
Trojans2015 Points Member Joined: Oct 26, 2017 Messages: 444 Likes Received: 370 Dec 28, 2019 #7 Unless someone really steps up and leaves early for the NFL, I don't think we lose much at LB after next year. Hufanga will probably go pro early, but most of the secondary will have at least one more year of eligibility and nobody else has really established themselves as a potential early entrant. Tufele and Marlon will likely be gone so DL is a big question mark, and OL too since Austin Jackson and AVT will almost surely be gone, and it's possible both of them could be gone after this year.
Unless someone really steps up and leaves early for the NFL, I don't think we lose much at LB after next year. Hufanga will probably go pro early, but most of the secondary will have at least one more year of eligibility and nobody else has really established themselves as a potential early entrant. Tufele and Marlon will likely be gone so DL is a big question mark, and OL too since Austin Jackson and AVT will almost surely be gone, and it's possible both of them could be gone after this year.
Ngdoug Points Member Joined: Sep 13, 2018 Messages: 73 Likes Received: 92 Dec 28, 2019 #8 What’s the point of any of this what if stuff? This program is a peanut filled turd circling the toilet as long as these idiots are running the show. Oregon Trojan likes this.
What’s the point of any of this what if stuff? This program is a peanut filled turd circling the toilet as long as these idiots are running the show.
SonofGodzilla Points Member Joined: Aug 30, 2017 Messages: 1,835 Likes Received: 555 Dec 28, 2019 #9 5th year Senior vs. 4-5 star freshman. Who's more productive ?
Oregon Trojan Points Member Joined: Dec 25, 2017 Messages: 77 Likes Received: 79 Dec 28, 2019 #10 SC has over 30 4/5 star players on the current roster with playing time this year. We have good athletes they just are not coached to their potential. Very frustrating to watch.
SC has over 30 4/5 star players on the current roster with playing time this year. We have good athletes they just are not coached to their potential. Very frustrating to watch.
JayBird23 Points Member Joined: Nov 17, 2018 Messages: 477 Likes Received: 439 Dec 28, 2019 #11 These linemen are slow or they would have been rated higher. It's like recruiting a bunch of tall guys in basketball regardless of skill.
These linemen are slow or they would have been rated higher. It's like recruiting a bunch of tall guys in basketball regardless of skill.
Oregon Trojan Points Member Joined: Dec 25, 2017 Messages: 77 Likes Received: 79 Dec 28, 2019 #12 If you're going to use the 4/5 star rating system as a barometer to your successes or failures when it comes to recruiting you can't discount 4 star athletes. They certainly have skills to rate 4 stars. Lets coach for success.
If you're going to use the 4/5 star rating system as a barometer to your successes or failures when it comes to recruiting you can't discount 4 star athletes. They certainly have skills to rate 4 stars. Lets coach for success.
SouthbayTrojan91 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 5,246 Likes Received: 5,639 Dec 28, 2019 #13 They are not 4*. We have ONE 4* rated player in the entire class. Kaptain Karl likes this.
Oregon Trojan Points Member Joined: Dec 25, 2017 Messages: 77 Likes Received: 79 Dec 28, 2019 #14 Not talking this class. I'm talking SC roster. FYI , LSU only has one 4 star OL for their 2020 class and no 5 star. Since 2016 SC has recruited 7 4 star OL and LSU has recruited 9 4 star OL. Just saying a team like LSU is able to do so much more with their recruits then we do and I can only equate that to coaching.
Not talking this class. I'm talking SC roster. FYI , LSU only has one 4 star OL for their 2020 class and no 5 star. Since 2016 SC has recruited 7 4 star OL and LSU has recruited 9 4 star OL. Just saying a team like LSU is able to do so much more with their recruits then we do and I can only equate that to coaching.
Gold Trojan Points Member Joined: Aug 27, 2017 Messages: 1,742 Likes Received: 1,565 Dec 28, 2019 #15 OL is by far the most difficult position to evaluate HS athletes as. Most are big, but it’s difficult to determine the strength and athleticism some will gain, while others won’t.
OL is by far the most difficult position to evaluate HS athletes as. Most are big, but it’s difficult to determine the strength and athleticism some will gain, while others won’t.
trjoosh Points Member Joined: Nov 3, 2019 Messages: 170 Likes Received: 313 Dec 28, 2019 #16 End of the day, you can have bunch of 5* recruits but if theyre getting coached like your local community center team, they wont ever live up to the 5*. Oregon Trojan likes this.
End of the day, you can have bunch of 5* recruits but if theyre getting coached like your local community center team, they wont ever live up to the 5*.
usc1011 Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 1,212 Likes Received: 720 Dec 28, 2019 #17 Refreshing to see someone who has a clue on this site.
TrojanTracker1 Active Member Joined: Aug 31, 2019 Messages: 13 Likes Received: 36 Dec 28, 2019 #18 But will play UC Davis at home, so we'll have at least one win (maybe).
PickSicx Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 3,056 Likes Received: 5,106 Dec 28, 2019 #19 I'm sorry --- did you say TALENT at LB? I think you meant to say "Next year will be the final year for several of the semi-warm bodies that pretend to play linebacker."
I'm sorry --- did you say TALENT at LB? I think you meant to say "Next year will be the final year for several of the semi-warm bodies that pretend to play linebacker."
desertfoxx Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 924 Likes Received: 947 Dec 28, 2019 #20 If I was the elephant I would excuse myself and leave the room.. unless he signed a letter on intent . 2021 does look very bad ... 2020 no better if Kedon cannot play or transfer
If I was the elephant I would excuse myself and leave the room.. unless he signed a letter on intent . 2021 does look very bad ... 2020 no better if Kedon cannot play or transfer