Do wins mean more in short-term vs. long term success??? djgcue Junior Member Joined: Aug 24, 2017 Messages: 255 Likes Received: 195 Dec 4, 2019 #1 When SC won the last 3 games (even though it was to weak teams), I had a feeling Helton might be retained. Sometimes you have to lose to win, which a lot of posters on this forum might not seem to understand. I wonder how many posters, who said a Trojan would never hope for a loss, are now bitching about Helton's apparent retainment. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Although, something tells me that if Helton is retained, perhaps if SC gets blown out in the bowl game, he might still be let go??? I'm hoping for a big blow out loss with the last ditch hopes that Helton will eventually gets terminated.