Bubba Bolden

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  1. DJ4SC

    DJ4SC Junior Member


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    Stop going off the topic,
     
  2. STRECKERmemo

    STRECKERmemo Junior Member


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    I’m done..you started off saying he was handed something then he was put on a pedastal, etc etc. Ok, but bet ya had he played today and scored on a pick six, you would horray horray to your throat was sore. Build them up to tear them down. If the youngman made a mistake via his emotions, he should be given a punishment for it and allowed to particapte in a restorative process to learn and heal from the situation. Not be told how grateful he should be that he was given a 250k education. Colleges near and far were lined to up to do that and why? Because he EARNED IT. Done enjoy the game!
     
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    He was.

    If he was grateful he wouldn’t be making boneheaded decisions.

    Proof is in the actions. You too.
     
  4. beeto

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    So. Wut I miss ??????????????????
     
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    WHAT A TOTALLY ASININE DIATRIBE - but I am not surprised you would assume the worst of each and every comment with your inane hyperbole - we've been down this road with you before. Are you some kind of feminazi or something. That's a rhetorical question, of course. But you'll probably go off on it anyway. Why would I care if you think I am a gentleman. Plenty of others who know me know that I am and it's your problem if you want to think the worst. PS. if you want to feign ignorance, go look up the popular term for female anatomy and how it is used in the dictionary. Enlighten yourself.

    There is no requirement for us to impress you with kowtowing to your concept of thought police. I frankly don't give a shit what he said to them to make them so angry they sandbagged this Title IX shit until right before the opening game. Title IX is not for thought police or speech patrol. It is for abuse. You cannot put someone in jail or attempt to ruin them because you don't like what they said, or if they failed to impress your infinite enlightenment.

    I was tempted to address each of your stupid emotional retorts, but that would be a waste of band width and fall on deaf ears. Maybe you will actually pay attention when you hear the evidence of using Title IX as a weapon, especially in this case. As for names, you don't get that we don't want to tolerate drive by, yellow anonymous reporting with no accountability or right of the accused. I am sick and tired of this manipulative behavior, and now it's sand bagged sabotage...

    ALPHA MIKE FOXTROT
     
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    All this and yet I'm the one with the diatribe and emotional retorts? Lol.

    Who is "we" and "us"? I have no interest in anyone kowtowing to anything. You should feel free to say what you like, just know that a reply may be forthcoming.

    It's really simple. You stated there was plenty of evidence that Title IX was being used as a weapon in this case. I'm asking for the evidence. Is there a police report or a Title IX investigation report? A witness or victim statement? So far, it's been gossip and nothing more. And who said anything about jail? Did Bubba get arrested? Why assume the worst of either party?
     
  7. SCball14

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    Just finished watching season 1 of QB1 again. Realized Tate Martell and Bubba were wild at points...
     
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  8. PickSicx

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    When you consider the cost of athletic training, the specialized facilities that only they get access to, the priceless media exposure given to these athletes, tutoring services, nutritional services, and skill development (all of which require specialists, coaches and other paid university staff), Bubba and the rest of our football players are receiving far more than $250,000 for their time at USC. A football program is easily the most expensive sport at any University.

    While I do not begrudge any of these benefits to these athletes, lets acknowledge that they get far more than free tuition and room and board. By the time its all totaled, it would easily be more than double the $250K figure that is being tossed around.
     
  9. beeto

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    While some of what you say it's true. The University makes a lot more than what they invest in these players.
    If they didn't, they wouldn't offer them all these thing you point out.

    In the end they're both using each other. It works out great for the University. The player however doesn't use his part very well. well, most of them don't. All they have in their sights is an NFL contract. Most of them will not make it to the NFL and waste that $250,000 education. The University will make it's $$ and them some on EVERY single player.
     
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    Have gotten requests for donations to support student academic support, tutoring. Costly but needed by the team
     
  11. usc88

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    What the players coming in to a big time football program is that they are under a
    microscope. If they get a traffic ticket it will be in the news. The media is constantly around
    looking for stories.
    A small yelling argument will be magnified by the press.
    That is the price they have to pay.
     
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    Title IX has become an effective weapon used to supress another group. That's not its original intent. It was meant to level the playing field, not skew it. The evidence and judges recent decisions based on that evidence and being successfully argued in court is challenging Title IX's merits. That's a good thing. A fair thing. An American thing. That's the main reason why I propose its repeal because if even one person has been denied fairness under the amended or revised guidelines under the Obama administration and it caused that person harm in any negative fashion then expunge it quickly like the plague.

    I don't know if this destructive weapon has been utilized in this case. Let the evidence bear that out under a skewed system but allow it to be challenged by outside courts better suited for such decisions. Obviously, fair due process is not guaranteed under the current guidelines and the accused will be assumed guilty without benefit of facing the accuser(s). An assumption of guilt and denial to due process is inherently oppressive. Title IX does this, therefore, it has run its course.
     
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    If that's all the investigation turns up (I hope they don't spend weeks getting to the bottom of it), then I agree with the couple game suspension. Hell, if he was involved in the same alleged incident with some male students, I wouldn't even propose suspension. Make him do some extra work (community, football, school), and move on.
     
  14. DJ4SC

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    Great post and I agree on every point.

    I find it amazing that there are still young men who thumb their noses at it by not taking the whole experience seriously.

    Hopefully this is an example for other players who have yet to grace a college campus.
     
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    Ohhh Bubba no!!!!!!!!
     
  16. Tamatoa916

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    Suspending someone over words uttered during a verbal argument is insane. Is the person he argued with an employee of the University?
     
  17. BlueBlood

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    Is that what happened? Do you have a link? Not saying your wrong, but I am admitting to being completely in the dark here (even post Google! searches).
     
  18. twincitytrojan

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    Yes, that is what happened.

    2 other pay sites (cannot link) confirm this [verbal] altercation beginning with a member of a women's athletic team, and escalating to her house mates. Bubba was asked to leave, refused initially, then left the home after some vulgar words were exchanged. After leaving, he returned to the same house -- at an unknown later date -- and proceeded to use threatening words, or at least perceived as a threat, toward several members of the same home he had the previous incident at. Apparently, left without incident following his vulgar yelling and alleged "threats".

    The incident was reported to the University, likely campus police.

    There are some reports he visited the same house several days following the first heated exchange, yet this is not confirmed.

    We do know there was NO physical altercation, nor assault whatsoever; however, being considered as type of harassment considering verbal threats can be treated as such, depending on what is said.

    If someone pulled the Title IX card, investigations usually take 2 months or more.

    Given the fact Bubba returned to the same residence after being asked to leave is also another type of questionable behavior. He is definitely in trouble by the University, and the team is following their lead.

    He is in the wrong here, yet depending on the context, should have an opportunity to make amends. He didn't technically commit a 'crime', yet some may charge him with a type of harassment or abuse. Really subjective in these [verbal] incidents.

    Amazing to hear about Alabama kids whom are literally caught with a gun in their vehicle, or pot, or a knife, even resisting arrest, and only hit with a 1 game suspension. USC and LA are a different culture, esp given our past with compliance issues, etc.

    This seems more like a jealous rage issue, or Bubba trying to get the last word in, which can be learned from, yet some want to 'take him down', or made an example of. We do know Bubba refrained from any physical abuse/assault, and seemed more like several women were involved against him. Group mentality/think can exacerbate such issues, making them seem more escalated or heated than they really are...

    Who knows what will happen, yet if there is an on-going, continued investigation, they usually are around 2 months or more, and Bubba would be suspended until everything is fully reviewed.

    I suspect we won't see him again this season, or until 1st semester has ended, esp since the University has suspended him as of now.

    Really unfortunate set of events in a high profile place.

    If Bubba would have just let the first argument go, this would have been a non-issue or slap on the wrist, yet given the fact he returned and made alleged verbal threats, or at least one member of house perceived as such, this is a problem.
     
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  19. Tusc2000

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    So assuming the above is true (and I have no reason to think it is or isn't) ... and this eventually all gets sorted out, and Bubba is allowed to return to the team next season ... does 2018 count as a redshirt season for him?

    Inquiring minds and all that.
     
  20. TrojanInSF

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    Would seem crazy if it didn't count as a redshirt season.

    If the above is true, I'm right down the fairway on this one. Sounds like a series of bad decisions by Bubba, also sounds like a 2-3 month investigation (and suspension) is excessive. Though who knows what truly happened and/or was said.

    Ultimately, kids just need to be smarter.
     

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