USCSAE Points Member Joined: Sep 14, 2019 Messages: 58 Likes Received: 100 Feb 18, 2020 #21 There was no way for any of those coaches to succeed in Clay’s program - impossible. Until we are rid of the softness that Clay has built his system around, no one will. And how long will that take, especially with him still here? I hope the process has somehow begun with the new assistants, but unfortunately, I’m not certain it has; we won’t know until we see it. And even once it has begun, (which it should in earnest not this bandaid attempt), it is going to take a while to undue the great damage he has done. A fricking foundation of softness built over years is what we have right now. I honestly used to be so positive. Even during the 90’s when we were say 4-3 at some point, I would still be selling RB and NC hopes/scenarios to anyone who would listen; I have friends who remind me of that to this day. But, fricking Max, now Rick and his cast of clowns, and finally this SOB Helton have just sucked the life out of me. Sorry brothers for being the downer. FTFO! nvargas, gubo&palanka, Peete2Affholter and 2 others like this.