AD said crowd at Coli is a factor in a HC

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  1. TrojanDrive

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    Bringing UM in will be a rocket ship for recruiting. Stud recruits will want to be part of bringing USC back in a big way. There is an allure to that since they know UM wins big wherever he goes. UM is a "A" level coach who knows how to make all the pieces work whether recruiting, player development, assistants, culture, field strategy, and building an exciting product that fans will want to get behind.

    Hiring UM is a tidal wave since it lifts pretty much everything in one fell swoop.
     
  2. zitorocks

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    Folks, settle down on the recruiting...remember the transfer portal. If Helton is fired after the early signing, it's not a kiss of death for this year's recruiting class. The new coach can just tell the kids he doesn't want that they can go to another school because they won't be playing if they stay...and free up scholies for the elite recruits who enter the portal and want to play right away for a winning coach. We got McCoy and Steele (two elite recruits) well after the early signing period. Sure our "recruiting class ranking" will be lower, but who cares about a ranking when you get the elite players you want through the transfer portal?
     
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  3. xuscx

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    If we get 8-4, it is not a horrible record, but the AD will look at everything, Helton has lost the fans and recruits. Not a good path moving forward. I am sure Helton understands that, just a matter of getting the replacement lined up
     
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  4. GoSC27!

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    At this point with all the kids we lost I don’t think there are enough kids in the portal to reload. We definitely need both as we can not let our top in state recruits go to our rivals!
    Fight On!
     
  5. zitorocks

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    Agree we still need to recruit, but trust me, there will be more than enough kids in the portal if we were to hire a future HOF coach. Again, if the elite players from CA who leave CA for other schools know there are spots up for grabs...to start from day one, there will be plenty knocking on the door. From Richmond (who has been a great addition) to Bru to Steele...we were able to pull some transfers in...with Clay Helton as the coach...coming off a 5-7 season. Don't you think if we had a future HOF coach that we would be able to get that and much more?
     
  6. Aztrojan

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    You hit it on the head, elite players have come here under Clay and been mediocre at best. No one develops and and we basically win games with elite high school players.

    You play how you practice.... when you practice soft you play soft. PERIOD

    FIGHT ON MEN
     
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  7. conquest4ever81

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    You are one clueless dolt. Stick to what you know which doesn't appear to be much.
     
  8. uscvball

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    Looking to the portal is not a solid recruiting strategy. USC needs to address the current environment that has put us at #70 with 10 recruits. Southern CA is a very connected football community. Kids talk, parents talk, and coaches talk. USC is getting burned in every conversation and it won't stop until there is significant change.

    Normally, I'm a calm down type until we get to signing day but right now? Full on sirens blasting....we in danger.
     
  9. sctrojan2006

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    247 has us listed at #76 now. Things are bad and getting worse.
     
  10. trojan9999

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    Assuming Helton lasts until the UCLA game, if the AD is doing his job, the Monday after the UCLA game, Helton will either be fired or given a statement of support and confidence by the AD. Anything in between is a failure by the AD.
     
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    If we defeat the bRuins but the Utes don't lose another game Helton may be fired, however if Utah loses and we win out there is no way Clay will be dismissed before the CCG.
     
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    Never say never idiot....
     
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    If I was given $1 billion, I would be rich.
     
  14. Hockey10

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    I have the tendency to use the wrong choice of words at times, both on the boards and in life. You're right. I meant system implementation.
     
  15. KeepCalm&FightOn

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    You’re missing the big picture. If fans are leaving in droves, that means they aren’t invested. If you’re not invested, then you’re not going out of our way to get back for another game. They also aren't buying their son a Trojan shirt as a Christmas gift or grabbing a SC license plate holder.

    A poor program that isn’t winning or generating excitement in its fans is missing out on more than a few soft drinks in the 4th.
     
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  16. Lyn the Duck

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    What coach would be willing to take a job where he knows he will be blown out on national television for his first game?
     
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    Helton for sure :)
     
  18. TommyTrojan

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    Everywhere UM has gone, the team has turned around over night. OSU was down and his first season they were really good. I have no doubt if we hire him we have the talent needed to jump. This has never been about the players. Our coaching staff has completely underperformed and failed the kids.
     
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  19. TommyTrojan

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    At USC 8-4 is terrible.
     
  20. Troy70

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    Ruin game is huge in old days but wonder what I see at Coli next week, ready to be disappointed in crowd
     

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