2022 QB Maalik Murphy commits to Texas

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  2. Innocent Bystander

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    The only issue is what type of pull does he have.
    CJ Williams has spoken about playing with him.

    If they just get CJ I can live with that.

    Like I said I think we should have valued him if he can recruit as the QB
     
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    Agreed. USC fans might have a pretty specific take on Sark, but recruits like him and they (or people who can influence them) give him a lot of credit for what he did at Alabama.
     
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    SC should be worried Sark making inroads at Serra HS.
     
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    What happened to the Serra pipeline?
     
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    In Devin Brown SC found the qualities they were looking for, so it matters zero where the rest of 2022 QB's sign. Harrell and Eldon know QB's.

    You folks suggesting they pass on the better fit to keep pipelines open??
     
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    If we are speaking about Sark.
    With all due respect to all the other coaches in CFB none of them have a track record similar to Sark at the QB position.
    At least we benefitted from it.

    Sark takes both of his hands to count the number of first round QBs he has had his hands on.
     
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    Every kid from Serra doesn’t need to come to SC. Some kids need to go elsewhere for different reasons. No reason to worry about a “pipeline”.
     
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    Sark’s track record is mixed, to say the least. I’m more inclined to worry about our HC effing up than what Sark does or doesn’t do.

    I think Sark has learned some tough lessons and will do better this time around but, still, I would put him being the HC at Texas in a few years at 50/50.
     
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    Five star qb Murphy probably has spoken to Jalen Greene and unlike the latter, didn't want to waste his college career being moved from qb to receiver at USC. It has been a longtime since Jimmy Jones and Rodney Peete were running out of the coliseum tunnel as USC's starting qb. Curious to those qualities three star Devin Brown possesses over Maalik Murphy? Harrell will have a lot to prove this year on what he knows. If he doesn't figure out how to develop the run consistently and insist on 50-60 passing attempts, the Trojan's qb will continue to get knocked out of games.
     
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    But it was Sark who moved Greene to receiver at USC.
     
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    Some of the local kids and their families communicate regularly. The perception of USC football has been for a very longtime, SC only start the "golden boys" at qb. Right or wrong that is the perception of some local qb's and their families. So whether it was Sark then or Harrell now, the perception is the same. Having the opportunity to work (not in a sports related capacity) with high schools kids from all over LA County the past years, it's a conversation that is held more than what is readily admitted. Local qbs except the golden boys from Mater Dei (Darnold being the exception) do not seriously consider SC because they believe they will not get a legitimate opportunity to become the Trojans' starting qb. Unlike Jalen Greene, many don't want to be moved to receiver, so they'll go to UCLA , UTAH or some other out of state school.
     
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    Maybe you take a lower ranked kid,
    because in the 2023 class the staff is all in
    on Malachi Nelson.
    The take an elite qb prospect one year and the next take an solid one, then go back elite the next.
     
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    Talking about at the QB position.

    There aren't too many who can say they have had so many first round picks. Sark has the ultimate card in Matt Cassell.

    I like our QB evaluating. You can hit on QBs every year and every 2 years it won't change much because only one QB can play.

    Murphy is better from two POVs.
    1) Recruiting
    2) Upside

    I thought we should take the risk.
    Harrell is too busy trying to find the best guy every year.
    We will see with Dart. I think Dart could be better than Slovis.
     
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    History has moved forward a long way. History will show that SC closets have been cleaner than most. Hell, Sc changed the face of football for the likes of me; something parents should stress to their kids as they play the recruiting game.

    Thank you SC!
     
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    Murphy can win games even without stepping on the field.

    This is important at QB. Bringing in other players.

    Regarding perception...

    What people want to believe to be true.

    Sometimes you loses battle other times you don't.

    USC is losing battles because they aren't pumping guys into the NFL and aren't winning.
    We only have SC to sell. Playing close to home or living in Los Angeles.

    Doesn't work with the ones who are mentally there.
    Those are the types who will live on the Moon to play in the NFL.

    Football is a sport that you need to be driven. Sometimes being isolated helps going to the NFL.
    Why places like Oklahoma, Alabama and Clemson are interesting
     
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    Believe me "DISTRACTIONS'' are availed to the boys no matter how hidden the school!
    Just as all girl schools were able to rendezvous with the all boys school back in the days, it still gets worked out.
     
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    Sark under PC and Saban has a great track record, without them not so much. But he does have, well, I don’t need to go there. IMHO, he is still unproven as a HC.

    I hope you’re right about Dart but Slovis will start next year if healthy, so it will likely be a while before the comparison can be made.
     
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    We are talking about two different things here.

    I don't know what he will do as a HC in terms of winning and losing games.

    I do know that he has pretty much had a future NFL draft pick at QB his entire career.
    Alabama never had a first round pick at QB before Sark.

    The perception of Sark has never changed.

    He played a huge part in taking a winless Washington program to being a CFP team in less than a decade.
    Here he played a huge role in helping USC play in two consecutive NYD6 bowl games. You see this by the fallout with Helton.
    How else do you explain Helton winning 20+ games in two years to struggling for three years
     
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    Sark there recruiting California

    We have a bunch of coaches from there recruiting Texas.

    Expanding the talent pool. Even if there isn't realignment there is a chance that we can expand the talent pool.

    We have to understand that we are helping OU and Texas here when we do so.
    Good number of these players have family connections to Texas.
    That works both ways.
     

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