2 more parents Plead guilty - would you pay to get kid in ?

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  2. DaFireMedic

    DaFireMedic Junior Member


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    Would I pay to get my kid in? Not illegally, even if I were wealthy like these people.
     
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    Lots of people make donations to colleges to get their kids in. But the overwhelming majority don't commit fraud by pretending their kids are athletes.
     
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    Should people really be going to jail over this?
     
  5. Troy70

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    Why didn’t they just donate to a dean & special program, lol. Kid must be dumber than a rock
     
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    The Farm I would. or maybe one of the ivy-league schools
     
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    Hell yes.
     
  8. Peete2Affholter

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    This is what I don't understand. Rich folks have, since time immemorial, basically greased the wheels to pave the way for their (unqualified) progeny to get choice assignments in colleges, institutions, jobs, etc.

    Nobody would bat an eye if these parents donated a large sum of money to a school to secure admission for their kid who otherwise would have been laughed out of the admissions office. But they decided to commit fraud, which seems puzzling to me. Why do something illegal when something perfectly legal (if ethically questionable) is available for the same result?
     
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    Well said! As a poster said above, their progeny must have been dumb as rocks if they couldn't get them in the through the donation route. As an alumnus, I don't mind having children of university benefactors getting preferential treatment if the family has supported the university. But the whole athletics involvement is ridiculous. When is Haden getting hit with something?
     
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    Will Pat’s right hand assistant, Donna talk since she is going to trial
     
  11. SC Mindstorm

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    My daughter got in cause she's smart as crap. I only say this to brag.
     
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    Because these people are rich, but not donate a building rich. A 1M donation to SC might move the needle a little if your kid was on the cusp. But if your kid is dumb as box of rocks you are looking more in the 5M-10M range.

    These people cheaped out and tried to get their kids in the backdoor by only paying 250K and none of it went to USC's pocketbook. That's why they are being prosecuted - they didn't play the usual college bribery game by the rules and the FBI was brought in to re-impress the University donation rules on this class of upstarts.
     
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    I bet the parents who paid bribes to get their kids in & got away with it feel stupid now since all they did was pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for the right to have their kid log into school from a home computer. What...they gonna sue to get their bribes back? LOL!
     
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    Peete2Affholter said:
    This is what I don't understand. Rich folks have, since time immemorial, basically greased the wheels to pave the way for their (unqualified) progeny to get choice assignments in colleges, institutions, jobs, etc.

    Indeed the well connected(not all) has since day one blazed questionable trails to give their larvea better chances. My daughter from South Central LA, product of LA unified(I mostly home schooled her) graduate of Dartmouth College, would routinely confide in me how many would cheat on tests. The Big green functions behind an HONOR SYSTEM where professors were/are routinely absent during test takings.

    My personal contract with my daughter(today an attorney) was to excel through hard un compromised efforts, not by any means !
    Many of the efforts we see around us worldwide seem to subscribe to the "BY ANY MEANS" theory. players taking enhancers, teams money man logging millions of travel miles distributing goodies, parents greasing hands for easier college and even team access for their kids, politicians taking bribes,,,,
    FALLING DOWN comes highly recommended,
     
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    Larvae? So they are sub-human in your opinion.
     
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    Not only would I not pay to get my kid in, my daughter was offered admission, but the total cost of attendance is insane these days, so she went elsewhere.
     
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    Lol @ "larvae."

    I would say they're more like hatchlings - the spawn of those reptilian lizard people who have no recognizable human compassion or empathy - a whole class of sociopaths.

    Seriously though - human nature is why honor systems rarely work. Unless violation of the rules results in enormous damage to one's reputation, and thus future prospects for employment, advancement, etc. - there's often very little to prevent rule-breakers from doing what they do. Personally, I have always had an intense hatred for people who believe they are "above the law" and act as though rules only apply to the hoi polloi. So, I'm quite enjoying the discomfiture of these parents who figured they could do an end-run around other, more deserving kids who actually worked hard and obtained good grades and test scores.
     
  18. Dartmouth

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    Any among us who partake in the art of Unfair competition belongs in the 'sub-Human category in my book. Sadly this applies to so many in societies. Daughters graduating class had 6 valedictorians , 2 she knew from sharing classes to be chronic cheaters; that valedictorian label will be a differentiator for them in the real world(no harm no foul), to the detriment of the kids who played fair.

    alex rodriguez(not deserving of respect) berated a young pitcher once, a comeback of 'at least I didn't use Roids' would have been sweet. The fruit seldom falls far from the tree so if kids witness the underhanded practices of some parents to enroll them into top Universities; we should not be surprised by their Larvaes, BY ANY MEANS approach.

    My greatest LOVES in sports are the Tiny Mite, Mitey Might, Tee ballers, youth basketball/soccer/hockey etc(no older than 10); beyond those ages much of the purity/beauty, Honesty of the game becomes harder to see or find.
     
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    Fight on! My kids, too.
     
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    FWIW, I don't think being valedictorian makes that much of a difference in the real world, but it does stink that the kids cheated.
     

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